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Maybe you meant this by putting quotes around the word mobile, but this applies to IE10 on desktops as well; when running IE10 in Metro... I mean Windows 8 UI.

Maybe you meant this by putting quotes around the word mobile, but this applies to IE10 on desktops as well; when running IE10 in Metro... I mean Windows 8 UI. In the official documentation [1] they refer to it as "Windows UI". I think it's a bit misleading to claim it only applies to "mobile" [sic]. 1 - http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ie/jj193557(v=vs.85).aspx http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ie/jj193557(v=vs.85)...

bunderbunder 14y ago
Right. IE 10 Metro being the mobile version of their browser. It's true that it runs on desktops. But it's also true that it's primarily intended as the version of the browser that's used on touchscreen devices.
- bradleyland 14y ago
  Eh, I hate to split hairs here, but I feel like the author of this blog post is being unfairly taken to task for a misleading headline. I disagree with the characterization of the WinUI version of IE being the "mobile version of their browser". It's the only version available on mobile, but WinUI is the default UI when you boot Windows 8, isn't it? That's not rhetorical. I haven't used Windows 8 much, but I did install the beta in a VM, and it booted to Metro (...er Windows UI). When I launched IE, it launched in WinUI, so it's reasonable to assume that mom & pop are going to use IE10 in WinUI at least as much as they do "desktop" mode. The whole kerfuffle here centers around the ambiguity of the terms in use. It is unfair to take the blog author to task over his language, only to use unclear language in return. Characterizing this as the "mobile version" of the browser is incredibly unclear, considering it's the default on the OS that will ship with desktop and laptop computers. EDIT: Here's a little matrix I posted further down the page. I think this makes the context a little more clear. Windows UI | Desktop (default) ================================+================ Tablet or phone : Affected | N/A Desktop or laptop: Affected | NOT affected
  - bunderbunder 14y ago
    Maybe, I suppose it depends on how you use it. I've been using the consumer release Windows 8 on my personal laptop for about a month now, and I honestly haven't even seen the Metro version since then. I know it's there, but the desktop version's generally quicker and easier to get to. As far as the whole "mobile/not mobile" thing goes, I think that ambiguity is totally inescapable on Windows 8. Windows 8 has an identity complex, and is full of bits of UI that were clearly designed for touchscreen devices but are also used on the desktop OS. But I don't think the fact that they're available negates the fact that they're primarily optimized for a mobile experience. It's more just a symptom of Microsoft trying (and, as illustrated by cases like this, not necessarily succeeding) to shoehorn a mobile experience and a desktop experience into the same environment.
- Rabidgremlin 14y ago
  mmm but default mode for Windows 8 is "Windows UI" (Metro). You have to specifically switch to Desktop mode. You have to wonder how many people will never switch modes...
dpark 14y ago
That page refers to it as "new Windows UI", not simply "Windows UI". Sorry to nitpick, but there's enough ambiguity around the naming for the new/modern/metro/Windows 8 UI already.

bunderbunder 14y ago

Right. IE 10 Metro being the mobile version of their browser. It's true that it runs on desktops. But it's also true that it's primarily intended as the version of the browser that's used on touchscreen devices.

bradleyland 14y ago
Eh, I hate to split hairs here, but I feel like the author of this blog post is being unfairly taken to task for a misleading headline. I disagree with the characterization of the WinUI version of IE being the "mobile version of their browser". It's the only version available on mobile, but WinUI is the default UI when you boot Windows 8, isn't it? That's not rhetorical. I haven't used Windows 8 much, but I did install the beta in a VM, and it booted to Metro (...er Windows UI). When I launched IE, it launched in WinUI, so it's reasonable to assume that mom & pop are going to use IE10 in WinUI at least as much as they do "desktop" mode. The whole kerfuffle here centers around the ambiguity of the terms in use. It is unfair to take the blog author to task over his language, only to use unclear language in return. Characterizing this as the "mobile version" of the browser is incredibly unclear, considering it's the default on the OS that will ship with desktop and laptop computers. EDIT: Here's a little matrix I posted further down the page. I think this makes the context a little more clear. Windows UI | Desktop (default) ================================+================ Tablet or phone : Affected | N/A Desktop or laptop: Affected | NOT affected
- bunderbunder 14y ago
  Maybe, I suppose it depends on how you use it. I've been using the consumer release Windows 8 on my personal laptop for about a month now, and I honestly haven't even seen the Metro version since then. I know it's there, but the desktop version's generally quicker and easier to get to. As far as the whole "mobile/not mobile" thing goes, I think that ambiguity is totally inescapable on Windows 8. Windows 8 has an identity complex, and is full of bits of UI that were clearly designed for touchscreen devices but are also used on the desktop OS. But I don't think the fact that they're available negates the fact that they're primarily optimized for a mobile experience. It's more just a symptom of Microsoft trying (and, as illustrated by cases like this, not necessarily succeeding) to shoehorn a mobile experience and a desktop experience into the same environment.
Rabidgremlin 14y ago
mmm but default mode for Windows 8 is "Windows UI" (Metro). You have to specifically switch to Desktop mode. You have to wonder how many people will never switch modes...

dpark 14y ago

That page refers to it as "new Windows UI", not simply "Windows UI". Sorry to nitpick, but there's enough ambiguity around the naming for the new/modern/metro/Windows 8 UI already.