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The redneck version goes something like "Jingle Bells, shotgun shells, Santa Claus is dead. Grandma got her .44 and shot him in the head." Don't ask, it's not

• cgriswald 10mo ago
  Must have been other Grandma, since Santa Claus killed Grandma in a hit-and-run. Revenge maybe?
• cvwright 10mo ago
  The redneck version that I heard as a kid was way worse than that. Things I won’t repeat…
  • culi 10mo ago
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    • montag 10mo ago
      Generalizing a bit, aren’t we? I never heard this version of the rhyme
      • garbagewoman 10mo ago
        Your experience isn’t universal either
    • jdminhbg 10mo ago
      > My mother grew up in the Soviet Bloc Ah yes, famous racial utopias, all of them.
      • gostsamo 10mo ago
        Surprisingly, communism was antiracist which explains why it was popular outside the US. There is the fact that many communists were racist on a personal level, but the state policies were inclusive due to the very nature of the ideology. As someone who also comes from the former block, I think that communism was a bad idea with terrible implementation but it also had its moments no matter what the US propaganda is trying to present it as.
        • rini17 10mo ago
          Have you heard about Roma? The communist states tried to help them but in a hamfisted ways like separating kids from parents. They did nothing to actually resolve racism. Many Roma ended up in squalor in segregated settlements. That goes on to this day and improves very slowly. It definitely was not "its moment".
          • gostsamo 10mo ago
            So nice of you to teach me about the roma. I was sure to have never heard about them. /s The history of gypsies and their segregation is much older though and the regimes inherited much of their attitude based on prior prejudices. The treatment differed in different times and locations. I've heard accounts of casual police brutality and of good integration in the local community and of a "leave everything as it is without engaging with hard problems". None of those was sanctioned on the bases of race theory and in fact the official stance was for equality. Compare it to the US where it was part of local and state legislation. On the other hand, the higher ups in the regimes were often repainted nationalists and common criminals of old so adherence to the ideals was often perfunctory and positive actions and outcomes were falling short of what was possible.
            • rini17 10mo ago
              If it's part of legislation, you can fight it. If the official ideology is equality and racial prejudices "don't exist", then any problems are suppressed and you can't do anything. Soviet union was defacto an apartheid when you consider how non-white ethnics were treated in practice. They just were so good at suppressing everything that it was never "an issue".
          • estimator7292 10mo ago
            Blaming Roma hate on communism is like blaming the Nazis for antisemitism. If you believe that for even a moment you need to read a book.
            • rini17 10mo ago
• andrepd 10mo ago
  There's also corrupted versions in other languages than English! I'm from Portugal and there's also semi-bawdy lyrics that somehow spread across the country organically across hundreds of miles.