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Sorry your product experience was sub-par. We have four of the various revisions and the quality is on par with the other laptops in the price bracket. Framew

Sorry your product experience was sub-par. We have four of the various revisions and the quality is on par with the other laptops in the price bracket. Framework versus MacBook - Not even a comparison - One of them you can do whatever you want with, and the other not so much. Linux is the best option for these computers, as with Windozers the battery life is worse. Baseline CPU idle on a clean linux install is like 0.5% - this results in a low power use battery life of about 7 hours on the 13" model under web browsing/audio playing loads.

Rebelgecko 10mo ago
My Framework seems to get worse battery life on Linux than Windows. Different tools like powertop help close the gap, but inevitably if I put the framework in a bag for a week, it'll be dead when I take it out
- The_President 10mo ago
  I shut mine down completely and haven't had the battery drain issue, but on "modern standby," yes these don't last very long. Probably 2-3% per hour on standby and worse than that if anything is plugged into the expansion slots.
- sillystuff 10mo ago
  If your laptop is using a recent AMD Ryzen based SoC: ACPI C4 power state (for powering down more of the SoC during S0ix suspend) is not supported on Linux yet, for recent (last couple years) AMD processors. Patches submitted for 6.18 were described as "laying the foundation for AMD C4 support". So, maybe won't be fully supported until 6.19 or even later; Sorry, I haven't followed up to see what has actually landed.
  - The_President 10mo ago
    Thank you - Good info
  - Rebelgecko 10mo ago
    I have one of the older ones. I think there's a way to set up "real" hibernation on Linux but it seems like a pain in the ass
- deryilz 10mo ago
  If you're going to put it in a bag for a week, why not use some kind of hibernation feature?
  - Rebelgecko 10mo ago
    You have to muck around with your disk partitions on Linux (although windows I think supports it out of the box)... I haven't spent enough time researching it to feel confident I can do it without borking my system

Rebelgecko 10mo ago

My Framework seems to get worse battery life on Linux than Windows. Different tools like powertop help close the gap, but inevitably if I put the framework in a bag for a week, it'll be dead when I take it out

The_President 10mo ago
I shut mine down completely and haven't had the battery drain issue, but on "modern standby," yes these don't last very long. Probably 2-3% per hour on standby and worse than that if anything is plugged into the expansion slots.
sillystuff 10mo ago
If your laptop is using a recent AMD Ryzen based SoC: ACPI C4 power state (for powering down more of the SoC during S0ix suspend) is not supported on Linux yet, for recent (last couple years) AMD processors. Patches submitted for 6.18 were described as "laying the foundation for AMD C4 support". So, maybe won't be fully supported until 6.19 or even later; Sorry, I haven't followed up to see what has actually landed.
- The_President 10mo ago
  Thank you - Good info
- Rebelgecko 10mo ago
  I have one of the older ones. I think there's a way to set up "real" hibernation on Linux but it seems like a pain in the ass
deryilz 10mo ago
If you're going to put it in a bag for a week, why not use some kind of hibernation feature?
- Rebelgecko 10mo ago
  You have to muck around with your disk partitions on Linux (although windows I think supports it out of the box)... I haven't spent enough time researching it to feel confident I can do it without borking my system