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Why don’t you go ahead and finish your argument? The EU is hypocritical, and the restrictions on freedom you see in Russia are actually way less extreme versio

by dangus 10mo ago

Why don’t you go ahead and finish your argument? The EU is hypocritical, and the restrictions on freedom you see in Russia are actually way less extreme versions of the exact same laws in the books in Europe. Europe did it first and Russia is way more reasonable about it. I swear you’re not even very far from repeating a Steve Rosenberg Vladimir Putin exchange verbatim. It would be kind of hilarious how gullible the tech libertarian bro demographic is to Russian propaganda if it wasn’t so sad and dangerous.

submeta 10mo ago
So instead of exchanging arguments, you prefer to put people on sanctions lists, because they are on the wrong side from your standpoint? Is this the Europe you want to live in?
- dangus 10mo ago
  You still haven't explained who is on a sanction list and why, so I really don't see how your argument is anything more than vague anti-EU sentiment. It sounds like you're talking about Red Media, which I had to look up on my own because of how vague your argument was to begin with. The organization claims it has been targeted for the content of its reporting, although the German government says that it Red Media operates under the Turkish AFA Medya umbrella that has close ties to RT and Russian funding. I think the obvious way to see which side deserves more grains of salt is to see if any other journalistic outlets have been sanctioned that report in similar ways. It seems like Germany has only sanctioned this specific media company that has obvious ties to Russia, not every outlet that has done Palestine-sympathetic or Israel-skeptical reporting.
  - frm88 10mo ago
    To be fair Red Media's ties to Russian Financing remains unproven and then there is this other fact: Anthony Blinken, former U.S. Secretary of State alleged the Russian connection and had their social media accounts on Google/Meta deleted/banned and Germany usually follows the U.S. https://perspektive-online.net/2025/05/nach-politischem-und-medialem-druck-red-media-stellt-betrieb-ein/ https://perspektive-online.net/2025/05/nach-politischem-und-... He did the same with African Stream under the same allegations. https://westafricaweekly.com/meta-suspends-african-stream-accounts-following-us-state-departments-accusation/ https://westafricaweekly.com/meta-suspends-african-stream-ac...
    - dangus 10mo ago
      Google and Meta are private companies who can ban anyone they want for any reason. What happened to African Stream seems entirely unrelated, at least in terms of the outcome. It seems like the fact remains that Red Media is the only media outlet that has been hit by these direct government sanctions. If these sanctions were based on content and speech, there would be dozens of publications under these sanctions. There are even mainstream US publications that have published journalism critical of Israel’s role in the war.

by dangus 10mo ago

submeta 10mo ago

So instead of exchanging arguments, you prefer to put people on sanctions lists, because they are on the wrong side from your standpoint? Is this the Europe you want to live in?

dangus 10mo ago
You still haven't explained who is on a sanction list and why, so I really don't see how your argument is anything more than vague anti-EU sentiment. It sounds like you're talking about Red Media, which I had to look up on my own because of how vague your argument was to begin with. The organization claims it has been targeted for the content of its reporting, although the German government says that it Red Media operates under the Turkish AFA Medya umbrella that has close ties to RT and Russian funding. I think the obvious way to see which side deserves more grains of salt is to see if any other journalistic outlets have been sanctioned that report in similar ways. It seems like Germany has only sanctioned this specific media company that has obvious ties to Russia, not every outlet that has done Palestine-sympathetic or Israel-skeptical reporting.
- frm88 10mo ago
  To be fair Red Media's ties to Russian Financing remains unproven and then there is this other fact: Anthony Blinken, former U.S. Secretary of State alleged the Russian connection and had their social media accounts on Google/Meta deleted/banned and Germany usually follows the U.S. https://perspektive-online.net/2025/05/nach-politischem-und-medialem-druck-red-media-stellt-betrieb-ein/ https://perspektive-online.net/2025/05/nach-politischem-und-... He did the same with African Stream under the same allegations. https://westafricaweekly.com/meta-suspends-african-stream-accounts-following-us-state-departments-accusation/ https://westafricaweekly.com/meta-suspends-african-stream-ac...
  - dangus 10mo ago
    Google and Meta are private companies who can ban anyone they want for any reason. What happened to African Stream seems entirely unrelated, at least in terms of the outcome. It seems like the fact remains that Red Media is the only media outlet that has been hit by these direct government sanctions. If these sanctions were based on content and speech, there would be dozens of publications under these sanctions. There are even mainstream US publications that have published journalism critical of Israel’s role in the war.