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by aebtebeten 10mo ago

PaulHoule 10mo ago
… those ones that mother gives you that don’t do anything at all!
- gsf_emergency_6 10mo ago
  Not mother (or one of the universal mascots of fecundity[1]) only something to feed the festive fire https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45955649 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45955649 (By way of an "explanation" of the "3 boxes") [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_hares https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_hares >There are two possible and perhaps concurrent reasons why the three hares may have found popularity as a symbol within the church. Firstly, it was believed that the hare was hermaphrodite and could reproduce without loss of virginity.[26] This led to an association with the Virgin Mary, with hares sometimes occurring in illuminated manuscripts and Northern European paintings of the Virgin and Christ Child.
  - aebtebeten 10mo ago
    The wine grape is hermaphrodite; could that have something to do with transubstantiation?
    - gsf_emergency_6 10mo ago
      Then "J" must be..
      - aebtebeten 10mo ago
        ..haploid? (why else the middle initial of "H"?)
        deleted 10mo ago
        [deleted]
- gsf_emergency_6 10mo ago
  In response to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23475069 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23475069 It seems that "third-person first" encapsulates the ALARM theory perfectly.. (Shannon's game "antibootstraps": if the machine loses twice in a row, it acts to prevent the human from learning its own strat. The "insurance[1]-dual" ? :) In https://mastodon.social/@UP8/113189883152005058 https://mastodon.social/@UP8/113189883152005058 The bottom box is labelled "emptiness, void, etc". its archaic nature would suggest it's that primordial "third person"? [1] as usual, a shorthand for Morelly's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_each_according_to_his_ability,_to_each_according_to_his_needs#Origin_of_the_phrase https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_each_according_to_his_abi... Which also points to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidary_obligations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidary_obligations >Contractual solidary obligations are frequently created by insurance policies (take on solidarity v love-- later..) >The origin of solidarity can be traced to a Roman idea known as correality where a single thing was owed by more than one person [but only one person need ever be accountable for it]
  - aebtebeten 10mo ago
    In games where any given strategy is potentially exploitable, I guess the meta is (a) rapidly decide if you're playing against a fish, or if you are the fish; then (b) if against a fish, exploit their strat, or (c) if you are the fish, run a mixed strat, to at least avoid yours being exploitable. Bottom box as primordial "third person" would go along with egolessness in various traditions (including 李小龙's "be water, my friend")? EDIT: https://ctext.org/dao-de-jing#n11598 https://ctext.org/dao-de-jing#n11598 ? Note that solidarity from roman law was directly taken up by civil codes, but HN's home country is a common law jurisdiction: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_legal_systems#/media/File:Legal_Systems_-_Global.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_legal_systems... ("joint and several liability" seems to cover passive, but not active, solidarity?)
    - gsf_emergency_6 10mo ago
      (If we replace fish by "unicellular organism", it might be easier to get to "what kind of (meta)game gets them to multicellularity"?) Note that narcissism is what PH/Kohut is trying to breakup here. I struggle to put egolessness at its foundation, because that smells too much like nihilism. seem s increasingly less healthy to scale nihilistic therapy to a handful, 37 (~Dunbar), 1000s (POUM outer party?) Why not an alternative life-force that could legitimise the "ri" in shu-ha-ri, "acting-out", "disruption" (so take it both personal and ... solidarital (-activism)?) [Creative] disruption is after all the unspoken (meta?)ideology on HN* Fully hypothetically, we shall then consider the behaviour of "(self-)therapists" in that scenario- "weaponized curiosity" bootstrapping into a full alarm ---as "we" model the minds running a "Bildungs"-institution (PH), the spiessig (aeb), HN mods (yours truly) :) (I'd like to take it here to "self jokes or -tickling", but "too many knobs spoil the chat".. EDIT to circle back to civil vs common systems wrt fueling creative disruption soon enough) *Seems like a step up from "Schumpeterian" "creative destruction"/will-to-power tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeHlvXvG6vA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeHlvXvG6vA

PaulHoule 10mo ago

… those ones that mother gives you that don’t do anything at all!

gsf_emergency_6 10mo ago
Not mother (or one of the universal mascots of fecundity[1]) only something to feed the festive fire https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45955649 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45955649 (By way of an "explanation" of the "3 boxes") [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_hares https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_hares >There are two possible and perhaps concurrent reasons why the three hares may have found popularity as a symbol within the church. Firstly, it was believed that the hare was hermaphrodite and could reproduce without loss of virginity.[26] This led to an association with the Virgin Mary, with hares sometimes occurring in illuminated manuscripts and Northern European paintings of the Virgin and Christ Child.
- aebtebeten 10mo ago
  The wine grape is hermaphrodite; could that have something to do with transubstantiation?
  - gsf_emergency_6 10mo ago
    Then "J" must be..
    - aebtebeten 10mo ago
      ..haploid? (why else the middle initial of "H"?)
      - deleted 10mo ago
        [deleted]
gsf_emergency_6 10mo ago
In response to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23475069 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23475069 It seems that "third-person first" encapsulates the ALARM theory perfectly.. (Shannon's game "antibootstraps": if the machine loses twice in a row, it acts to prevent the human from learning its own strat. The "insurance[1]-dual" ? :) In https://mastodon.social/@UP8/113189883152005058 https://mastodon.social/@UP8/113189883152005058 The bottom box is labelled "emptiness, void, etc". its archaic nature would suggest it's that primordial "third person"? [1] as usual, a shorthand for Morelly's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_each_according_to_his_ability,_to_each_according_to_his_needs#Origin_of_the_phrase https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_each_according_to_his_abi... Which also points to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidary_obligations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidary_obligations >Contractual solidary obligations are frequently created by insurance policies (take on solidarity v love-- later..) >The origin of solidarity can be traced to a Roman idea known as correality where a single thing was owed by more than one person [but only one person need ever be accountable for it]
- aebtebeten 10mo ago
  In games where any given strategy is potentially exploitable, I guess the meta is (a) rapidly decide if you're playing against a fish, or if you are the fish; then (b) if against a fish, exploit their strat, or (c) if you are the fish, run a mixed strat, to at least avoid yours being exploitable. Bottom box as primordial "third person" would go along with egolessness in various traditions (including 李小龙's "be water, my friend")? EDIT: https://ctext.org/dao-de-jing#n11598 https://ctext.org/dao-de-jing#n11598 ? Note that solidarity from roman law was directly taken up by civil codes, but HN's home country is a common law jurisdiction: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_legal_systems#/media/File:Legal_Systems_-_Global.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_legal_systems... ("joint and several liability" seems to cover passive, but not active, solidarity?)
  - gsf_emergency_6 10mo ago
    (If we replace fish by "unicellular organism", it might be easier to get to "what kind of (meta)game gets them to multicellularity"?) Note that narcissism is what PH/Kohut is trying to breakup here. I struggle to put egolessness at its foundation, because that smells too much like nihilism. seem s increasingly less healthy to scale nihilistic therapy to a handful, 37 (~Dunbar), 1000s (POUM outer party?) Why not an alternative life-force that could legitimise the "ri" in shu-ha-ri, "acting-out", "disruption" (so take it both personal and ... solidarital (-activism)?) [Creative] disruption is after all the unspoken (meta?)ideology on HN* Fully hypothetically, we shall then consider the behaviour of "(self-)therapists" in that scenario- "weaponized curiosity" bootstrapping into a full alarm ---as "we" model the minds running a "Bildungs"-institution (PH), the spiessig (aeb), HN mods (yours truly) :) (I'd like to take it here to "self jokes or -tickling", but "too many knobs spoil the chat".. EDIT to circle back to civil vs common systems wrt fueling creative disruption soon enough) *Seems like a step up from "Schumpeterian" "creative destruction"/will-to-power tbh