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> Had exactly did Barr and Co. accomplish in terms of moving forward the agenda people voted for? These guys were so eager to win accolades from liberals they

> Had exactly did Barr and Co. accomplish in terms of moving forward the agenda people voted for? These guys were so eager to win accolades from liberals they couldn’t even pick the lowest hanging fruit. Are you talking about the same Bill Barr? "Eager to win accolades from liberals" is a hilariously Trump-after-he-fired-someone thing to say. Have you read his Wikipedia page? Do you know who he actually is?

rayiner 9mo ago
I'm not talking about paper credentials, I'm talking about accomplishments. 90% of lawyers in DC are liberals. Conservative lawyers can get credit for being "one of the good ones" so long as they don't attack the core tenants of liberal universalism or advance conservative social change in any meaningful way.[1] Obama's DOJ did stuff like go after Catholic nuns to make them offer birth control, to vindicate liberal principles like supremacy of secular values over religious values. Guys like Barr never did anything like that. Trump and his merry band of chuckleheads have achieved more legal wins for conservatism in a year than anyone in the Bush administration did in eight years. [1] It's not necessarily apparent from the outside where those lines are drawn. Bush's $8 trillion effort to blow up the Middle East was far less controversial among D.C. lawyers than Trump's effort to restrict immigration from the Middle East. Liberal universalists agreed with Bush's fundamental premise, if not his approach. Both believed that Iraq was the way it is due to external factors like Saddam, not internal factors like Iraqi culture. Even if liberals thought it was a terrible idea to go to war to topple Saddam, they didn't disagree with the core premise that Saddam was the barrier to Iraq becoming just like Iowa.
- exasperaited 9mo ago
  So you haven't read his Wikipedia page then, and you are too young, I guess, to remember Iran-Contra. You apparently don't even remember how Barr got the job from Trump.
  - rayiner 9mo ago
    Iran-Contra is a perfect example. How did that advance conservative principles? Whether Nicaragua is communist doesn’t affect anyone in America. Precisely because it has no consequences domestically, you won’t get disinvited from Georgetown parties for trying to overthrow Latin American governments. In fact, there’s an upside for liberals in such policies. The resulting chaos facilitated mass migration and cultural transplantation to the U.S. from places where socialism and communism found fertile soil.
    - exasperaited 9mo ago
      This is… an insane argument. But just the idea that Bill Barr gives a shit what liberals think makes me laugh.
      - rayiner 9mo ago
        DC is full of trad cons who are sensitive to what liberals think. More specifically, the type of liberal that dominates the professional class in DC—folks who will happily represent Phillip Morris but consider immigration and affirmative action to be moral imperatives. It’s just the math of the city. The DOJ is more democrat-leaning than most college campuses: https://admin.govexec.com/media/general/2024/11/110124donations.png https://admin.govexec.com/media/general/2024/11/110124donati.... Trump got three times the level of support in AOC’s district than his share of donations from DOJ employees.

rayiner 9mo ago

I'm not talking about paper credentials, I'm talking about accomplishments. 90% of lawyers in DC are liberals. Conservative lawyers can get credit for being "one of the good ones" so long as they don't attack the core tenants of liberal universalism or advance conservative social change in any meaningful way.[1] Obama's DOJ did stuff like go after Catholic nuns to make them offer birth control, to vindicate liberal principles like supremacy of secular values over religious values. Guys like Barr never did anything like that. Trump and his merry band of chuckleheads have achieved more legal wins for conservatism in a year than anyone in the Bush administration did in eight years. [1] It's not necessarily apparent from the outside where those lines are drawn. Bush's $8 trillion effort to blow up the Middle East was far less controversial among D.C. lawyers than Trump's effort to restrict immigration from the Middle East. Liberal universalists agreed with Bush's fundamental premise, if not his approach. Both believed that Iraq was the way it is due to external factors like Saddam, not internal factors like Iraqi culture. Even if liberals thought it was a terrible idea to go to war to topple Saddam, they didn't disagree with the core premise that Saddam was the barrier to Iraq becoming just like Iowa.

exasperaited 9mo ago
So you haven't read his Wikipedia page then, and you are too young, I guess, to remember Iran-Contra. You apparently don't even remember how Barr got the job from Trump.
- rayiner 9mo ago
  Iran-Contra is a perfect example. How did that advance conservative principles? Whether Nicaragua is communist doesn’t affect anyone in America. Precisely because it has no consequences domestically, you won’t get disinvited from Georgetown parties for trying to overthrow Latin American governments. In fact, there’s an upside for liberals in such policies. The resulting chaos facilitated mass migration and cultural transplantation to the U.S. from places where socialism and communism found fertile soil.
  - exasperaited 9mo ago
    This is… an insane argument. But just the idea that Bill Barr gives a shit what liberals think makes me laugh.
    - rayiner 9mo ago
      DC is full of trad cons who are sensitive to what liberals think. More specifically, the type of liberal that dominates the professional class in DC—folks who will happily represent Phillip Morris but consider immigration and affirmative action to be moral imperatives. It’s just the math of the city. The DOJ is more democrat-leaning than most college campuses: https://admin.govexec.com/media/general/2024/11/110124donations.png https://admin.govexec.com/media/general/2024/11/110124donati.... Trump got three times the level of support in AOC’s district than his share of donations from DOJ employees.