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You're honestly saying that Russia of all places has no history or culture?

Yizahi 10mo ago
She's saying that Ruzzian history and culture doesn't deserve neither recognition nor effort to learn them, at this period of time. It's fine if a person is already partially or fully embedded in those, you can't "unlearn" stuff. But I'm personally baffled at the people on reddit book subs who are clearly westerners and writing that they are actively trying to learn Ruzzian to read some Tolstoevsky. Yeah, I'm impressed, twice, both at the spectacularly low reward/effort ratio and the sheer tone deafness of it all. In 2025. Or 2024. Or 2023. Etc.
- mlrtime 10mo ago
  So because of a war they shouldn't learn Russian, and why do you type it as "Ruzzian"? The effort people put into criticizing how others spend their time is baffling, especially on HN.
  - risyachka 10mo ago
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    - mlrtime 10mo ago
      I'm teaching my son Russian and English now as well as the rich culture. I can also teach him to think critically and NOT support war. I'm sorry your experience has been so one sided, we all have different persepctives.
      - risyachka 10mo ago
        From all languages in the world that could benefit an individual and help them with future networking/career/etc - like German, Spanish, French, etc - you picked russian? Please explain why, this is honestly a very confusing choice.
    - Alex2037 10mo ago
      it is delightfully damning that you people say such things out loud :)
    - ramonga 10mo ago
      russian is also natively spoken in Belarus, Ukraine & many ethnics minorities inside russian federation.
      - risyachka 10mo ago
        Ukraine switched off from russian so you can cross it out, Russian in Belarus, Kazahstan etc is known only because soviet union forced it in schools. And now all those countries reduce its usage on every level. For obvious reason - it does not bring not a little tiny thing to the table. English does, German, mostly any language. Except russian.
    - throw-the-towel 10mo ago
      Your comment was flagged but I just vouched for it because this kind of shameless xenophobia deserves to be seen.
  - fractallyte 10mo ago
    russians (this time spelt with a lowercase 'r') have forfeited their right to exist as a nation. Consistently throughout history, they have invaded, colonized, and genocided their neighbors. They are doing it now, while the whole world watches. If anything, their brazenness is increasing - because they know there will never be any punishment. When people wonder how Germans allowed their country to tip over into Nazism, modern russia is a perfect reenactment of that: we can see it happening, in real time. And it's a blazing indictment that the rest of our "civilized" world is doing the absolute minimum to prevent history from repeating itself. Utterly SHAMEFUL.
    - vkou 10mo ago
      > russians (this time spelt with a lowercase 'r') have forfeited their right to exist as a nation. Consistently throughout history, they have invaded, colonized, and genocided their neighbors. Just to make sure we're on the right track here, has the UK (or maybe just England?) also earned that forfeit, or does it get a pass because it did all those things further away from home? (Except for that Ireland thing, which has produced some really 'funny' jokes about potatoes...)
      - fractallyte 10mo ago
        England was duly humiliated for its many misdemeanors (but not all, for sure), and has entered a period of "political correctness", where its sins must be acknowledged and atoned for. Nothing like this has ever been forced onto russia. And russian crimes are on an unimaginably vast scale. Remember, it was Stalin who said: "Quantity has a quality of its own."
        vkou 10mo ago
        > Nothing like this has ever been forced onto russia. All empires collapse sooner or later. Give it a few hundred (or dozen, or just a few) years. It's turn will come, just like it will for the US hegemony.

Yizahi 10mo ago

She's saying that Ruzzian history and culture doesn't deserve neither recognition nor effort to learn them, at this period of time. It's fine if a person is already partially or fully embedded in those, you can't "unlearn" stuff. But I'm personally baffled at the people on reddit book subs who are clearly westerners and writing that they are actively trying to learn Ruzzian to read some Tolstoevsky. Yeah, I'm impressed, twice, both at the spectacularly low reward/effort ratio and the sheer tone deafness of it all. In 2025. Or 2024. Or 2023. Etc.

mlrtime 10mo ago
So because of a war they shouldn't learn Russian, and why do you type it as "Ruzzian"? The effort people put into criticizing how others spend their time is baffling, especially on HN.
- risyachka 10mo ago
  [flagged]
  - mlrtime 10mo ago
    I'm teaching my son Russian and English now as well as the rich culture. I can also teach him to think critically and NOT support war. I'm sorry your experience has been so one sided, we all have different persepctives.
    - risyachka 10mo ago
      From all languages in the world that could benefit an individual and help them with future networking/career/etc - like German, Spanish, French, etc - you picked russian? Please explain why, this is honestly a very confusing choice.
  - Alex2037 10mo ago
    it is delightfully damning that you people say such things out loud :)
  - ramonga 10mo ago
    russian is also natively spoken in Belarus, Ukraine & many ethnics minorities inside russian federation.
    - risyachka 10mo ago
      Ukraine switched off from russian so you can cross it out, Russian in Belarus, Kazahstan etc is known only because soviet union forced it in schools. And now all those countries reduce its usage on every level. For obvious reason - it does not bring not a little tiny thing to the table. English does, German, mostly any language. Except russian.
  - throw-the-towel 10mo ago
    Your comment was flagged but I just vouched for it because this kind of shameless xenophobia deserves to be seen.
- fractallyte 10mo ago
  russians (this time spelt with a lowercase 'r') have forfeited their right to exist as a nation. Consistently throughout history, they have invaded, colonized, and genocided their neighbors. They are doing it now, while the whole world watches. If anything, their brazenness is increasing - because they know there will never be any punishment. When people wonder how Germans allowed their country to tip over into Nazism, modern russia is a perfect reenactment of that: we can see it happening, in real time. And it's a blazing indictment that the rest of our "civilized" world is doing the absolute minimum to prevent history from repeating itself. Utterly SHAMEFUL.
  - vkou 10mo ago
    > russians (this time spelt with a lowercase 'r') have forfeited their right to exist as a nation. Consistently throughout history, they have invaded, colonized, and genocided their neighbors. Just to make sure we're on the right track here, has the UK (or maybe just England?) also earned that forfeit, or does it get a pass because it did all those things further away from home? (Except for that Ireland thing, which has produced some really 'funny' jokes about potatoes...)
    - fractallyte 10mo ago
      England was duly humiliated for its many misdemeanors (but not all, for sure), and has entered a period of "political correctness", where its sins must be acknowledged and atoned for. Nothing like this has ever been forced onto russia. And russian crimes are on an unimaginably vast scale. Remember, it was Stalin who said: "Quantity has a quality of its own."
      - vkou 10mo ago
        > Nothing like this has ever been forced onto russia. All empires collapse sooner or later. Give it a few hundred (or dozen, or just a few) years. It's turn will come, just like it will for the US hegemony.