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I would argue that the degradation of journalism came first, and what allowed such political movements. An intertwined positive feedback loop to be sure, but i

by bawolff 11mo ago

I would argue that the degradation of journalism came first, and what allowed such political movements. An intertwined positive feedback loop to be sure, but i think its the weakening of journalism that allowed such movements to get a toe hold to start with.

mmooss 11mo ago
You need some evidence. An argument without evidence is in the company of disinformation. Maybe you could address the evidence I presented (the examples). Ignoring evidence is also part of disinformation.
- bawolff 11mo ago
  My evidence is that the things you mentioned happened after journalism was already weakened. Cause has to temporaly preceed effect.
  - mmooss 11mo ago
    Unless they mix together or there are other causes involved. First, when was journalism 'weakened'? The conservative anti-journalism campaign (to be clear, not all conservatives are anti-journalism) goes back to people like Rush Limbaugh in the late 1980s and Fox News in the mid-1990s. And journalism lost funding due to Craigslist taking over the main source of income, classified ads. Second, if these people are really interested in good journalism and truth, why do they attack journalists for reporting truth and insist on disinformation? Maybe come up with some evidence of your own, for your own argument. Mine won't help you much.
    - bawolff 11mo ago
      I think my evidence is of the same quality as yours.
      - mmooss 11mo ago
        Since you decline to present any, it's clear you have none. Why not look up the evidence and see what you can learn? It might be different than what I percieve, and at least you'll be learning.