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Also don’t assume the mistake wasn’t intentional.

by refurb 10mo ago

chistev 10mo ago
"Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence."
- 9dev 10mo ago
  Exactly my thoughts as well.
culi 10mo ago
This was my initial reaction to this news. I mean think about it The Trump team knows that nobody is gonna buy whatever they put out as being the full story. Isn't this just the perfect way to make people feel like they got something they weren't supposed to see? They can increase trust in the output without having to increase trust in the source of it And as far as I've heard there hasn't been anything "unredacted" that's been of any consequence. It all just feels a little too perfect.
- gmueckl 10mo ago
  This is probably one of those events where everyone on the inside has their own story that won't fit into a neat overarching narrative of how the files are handled because they only gets to feel part of the elefant each.
- refurb 10mo ago
  That was my thought. Just happen to leak some info for people you are interested in hurting but claim it was an accident. And in terms of no big news in “unredacted”, it’s likely names that don’t mean anything to the average voter but damaging material for K Street.
- kristofferR 10mo ago
  No, it's the opposite, it's fairly damaging. Previously they could claim, dubiously but plausible, that all redactions were about protecting victims (the only redactions allowed under the act). A lot of the "undone redactions" are solely about protecting the abusers, illegal under the law. Whether breaking a law actually matters anymore is another question though, as crime is legal now.
  - themafia 10mo ago
    Crime may go unpunished by this is why statues of limitations exist. The window on some crimes stays open for a very long time.
    - potato3732842 10mo ago
      "Some" is 99% crimes against the state with the occasional bone they throw the peasants to look like they care. Heck, murder probably wouldn't even be unlimited if not for the fact that it thumbs it's nose at the state's monopoly on violence.
      - themafia 10mo ago
        That's seems like some rather bleak hyperbole. If the goal of a conversation is to seek some improvement above the status quo then this is a solid impasse.
        potato3732842 10mo ago
        The problems we face can't be accurately assessed let alone solved if we are limited to thinking and reasoning about the government (and large institutions generally) the way we are taught to by our grade school civics class.
  - pstuart 10mo ago
    > as crime is legal now If they do it, it's not a crime.
- aucisson_masque 10mo ago
  It's the same government that invited a journalist to a signal discussion about ongoing military strike in Yemen.
  - h33t-l4x0r 10mo ago
    Maybe that was just a ploy to get us to underestimate them.
    - Natfan 10mo ago
      consider Hanlon's Razor
- pstuart 10mo ago
  As others have mentioned, the administration is staffed and run by loyalists, whose primary skills are flattery and obedience. Back in the day they had true masters of the Dark Arts. The forged letters about Bush's service were incredibly convenient in helping Bush beat Kerry. I am not alone in thinking it to be masterminded by Karl Rove.

Also don’t assume the mistake wasn’t intentional.

by refurb 10mo ago

Also don’t assume the mistake wasn’t intentional.

chistev 10mo ago

"Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence."

9dev 10mo ago
Exactly my thoughts as well.

culi 10mo ago

This was my initial reaction to this news. I mean think about it The Trump team knows that nobody is gonna buy whatever they put out as being the full story. Isn't this just the perfect way to make people feel like they got something they weren't supposed to see? They can increase trust in the output without having to increase trust in the source of it And as far as I've heard there hasn't been anything "unredacted" that's been of any consequence. It all just feels a little too perfect.

gmueckl 10mo ago
This is probably one of those events where everyone on the inside has their own story that won't fit into a neat overarching narrative of how the files are handled because they only gets to feel part of the elefant each.
refurb 10mo ago
That was my thought. Just happen to leak some info for people you are interested in hurting but claim it was an accident. And in terms of no big news in “unredacted”, it’s likely names that don’t mean anything to the average voter but damaging material for K Street.
kristofferR 10mo ago
No, it's the opposite, it's fairly damaging. Previously they could claim, dubiously but plausible, that all redactions were about protecting victims (the only redactions allowed under the act). A lot of the "undone redactions" are solely about protecting the abusers, illegal under the law. Whether breaking a law actually matters anymore is another question though, as crime is legal now.
- themafia 10mo ago
  Crime may go unpunished by this is why statues of limitations exist. The window on some crimes stays open for a very long time.
  - potato3732842 10mo ago
    "Some" is 99% crimes against the state with the occasional bone they throw the peasants to look like they care. Heck, murder probably wouldn't even be unlimited if not for the fact that it thumbs it's nose at the state's monopoly on violence.
    - themafia 10mo ago
      That's seems like some rather bleak hyperbole. If the goal of a conversation is to seek some improvement above the status quo then this is a solid impasse.
      - potato3732842 10mo ago
        The problems we face can't be accurately assessed let alone solved if we are limited to thinking and reasoning about the government (and large institutions generally) the way we are taught to by our grade school civics class.
- pstuart 10mo ago
  > as crime is legal now If they do it, it's not a crime.
aucisson_masque 10mo ago
It's the same government that invited a journalist to a signal discussion about ongoing military strike in Yemen.
- h33t-l4x0r 10mo ago
  Maybe that was just a ploy to get us to underestimate them.
  - Natfan 10mo ago
    consider Hanlon's Razor
pstuart 10mo ago
As others have mentioned, the administration is staffed and run by loyalists, whose primary skills are flattery and obedience. Back in the day they had true masters of the Dark Arts. The forged letters about Bush's service were incredibly convenient in helping Bush beat Kerry. I am not alone in thinking it to be masterminded by Karl Rove.