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"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake" - Napoleon Bonaparte Let all the files get released first. Then show your hacks.

esseph 9mo ago
Too late. The data has been touched far too many times. The chain of custody and any accountability will never happen.
rtkwe 9mo ago
They're not 'hacks' it's the people doing the redaction making beginner mistakes of not properly removing the selectable text under the redactions. They're either drawing black rectangles over the text or highlighting it black neither of which prevents the underlying text from being selected. Keeping that secret would require sponaneous silence from everyone looking at these docs which is just not possible.
- irjustin 9mo ago
  Yes but don't tell them they're doing it wrong.
  - agumonkey 9mo ago
    Misdirection 101
  - rtkwe 9mo ago
    Impossible which is the point of the last sentence. Spontaneous secrecy when some people are discovering the bad redactions while publicly streaming is impossible.
refurb 9mo ago
Also don’t assume the mistake wasn’t intentional.
- chistev 9mo ago
  "Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence."
  - 9dev 9mo ago
    Exactly my thoughts as well.
- culi 9mo ago
  This was my initial reaction to this news. I mean think about it The Trump team knows that nobody is gonna buy whatever they put out as being the full story. Isn't this just the perfect way to make people feel like they got something they weren't supposed to see? They can increase trust in the output without having to increase trust in the source of it And as far as I've heard there hasn't been anything "unredacted" that's been of any consequence. It all just feels a little too perfect.
  - gmueckl 9mo ago
    This is probably one of those events where everyone on the inside has their own story that won't fit into a neat overarching narrative of how the files are handled because they only gets to feel part of the elefant each.
  - refurb 9mo ago
    That was my thought. Just happen to leak some info for people you are interested in hurting but claim it was an accident. And in terms of no big news in “unredacted”, it’s likely names that don’t mean anything to the average voter but damaging material for K Street.
  - kristofferR 9mo ago
    No, it's the opposite, it's fairly damaging. Previously they could claim, dubiously but plausible, that all redactions were about protecting victims (the only redactions allowed under the act). A lot of the "undone redactions" are solely about protecting the abusers, illegal under the law. Whether breaking a law actually matters anymore is another question though, as crime is legal now.
javcasas 9mo ago
Please share your redacting tricks as loudly as you can, but only the ones that allow retrieving the original text. I'd love Google and the AIs to spout bad censoring tricks as much as possible.
IncreasePosts 9mo ago
There's enough people who would do it for the clout and don't really care what is in the documents one way or the other.
raincole 9mo ago
The whole thing is just too suspicious. Too good to be true. What's the chance of this being some 4D chess where the government has already edited the files, and then presented them as redacted so the "unredacted (but edited)" version looks more genuine?
- RajT88 9mo ago
  > What's the chance of this being some 4D chess where the government has already edited the files, and then presented them as redacted so the "unredacted (but edited)" version looks more genuine? With how they have pushed out any career public servants who were good at their jobs in favor of sycophants and loyalists, I'm not sure government organizations are still capable of playing 4D chess, if they ever were.

esseph 9mo ago

Too late. The data has been touched far too many times. The chain of custody and any accountability will never happen.

rtkwe 9mo ago

They're not 'hacks' it's the people doing the redaction making beginner mistakes of not properly removing the selectable text under the redactions. They're either drawing black rectangles over the text or highlighting it black neither of which prevents the underlying text from being selected. Keeping that secret would require sponaneous silence from everyone looking at these docs which is just not possible.

irjustin 9mo ago
Yes but don't tell them they're doing it wrong.
- agumonkey 9mo ago
  Misdirection 101
- rtkwe 9mo ago
  Impossible which is the point of the last sentence. Spontaneous secrecy when some people are discovering the bad redactions while publicly streaming is impossible.

refurb 9mo ago

Also don’t assume the mistake wasn’t intentional.

chistev 9mo ago
"Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence."
- 9dev 9mo ago
  Exactly my thoughts as well.
culi 9mo ago
This was my initial reaction to this news. I mean think about it The Trump team knows that nobody is gonna buy whatever they put out as being the full story. Isn't this just the perfect way to make people feel like they got something they weren't supposed to see? They can increase trust in the output without having to increase trust in the source of it And as far as I've heard there hasn't been anything "unredacted" that's been of any consequence. It all just feels a little too perfect.
- gmueckl 9mo ago
  This is probably one of those events where everyone on the inside has their own story that won't fit into a neat overarching narrative of how the files are handled because they only gets to feel part of the elefant each.
- refurb 9mo ago
  That was my thought. Just happen to leak some info for people you are interested in hurting but claim it was an accident. And in terms of no big news in “unredacted”, it’s likely names that don’t mean anything to the average voter but damaging material for K Street.
- kristofferR 9mo ago
  No, it's the opposite, it's fairly damaging. Previously they could claim, dubiously but plausible, that all redactions were about protecting victims (the only redactions allowed under the act). A lot of the "undone redactions" are solely about protecting the abusers, illegal under the law. Whether breaking a law actually matters anymore is another question though, as crime is legal now.

javcasas 9mo ago

Please share your redacting tricks as loudly as you can, but only the ones that allow retrieving the original text. I'd love Google and the AIs to spout bad censoring tricks as much as possible.

IncreasePosts 9mo ago

There's enough people who would do it for the clout and don't really care what is in the documents one way or the other.

raincole 9mo ago

The whole thing is just too suspicious. Too good to be true. What's the chance of this being some 4D chess where the government has already edited the files, and then presented them as redacted so the "unredacted (but edited)" version looks more genuine?

RajT88 9mo ago
> What's the chance of this being some 4D chess where the government has already edited the files, and then presented them as redacted so the "unredacted (but edited)" version looks more genuine? With how they have pushed out any career public servants who were good at their jobs in favor of sycophants and loyalists, I'm not sure government organizations are still capable of playing 4D chess, if they ever were.