When I talk with somebody who is working on a real business, they usually are most excited to talk about "what they do" rather than spitting out labels. I see s

When I talk with somebody who is working on a real business, they usually are most excited to talk about "what they do" rather than spitting out labels. I see so many people (especially on HN) say "startup(s)", when they are just referring to a 1/4 done side project with no users. I feel the word "startup" has been dragged through the mud by wantrepreneurs. I have mostly removed it from my vocabulary. I'm building a company.