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> Tailwind is a tool. It's not a religion or a way of life. Get off your high horse and stop obsessing over a fucking hammer The author should take his own adv

> Tailwind is a tool. It's not a religion or a way of life. Get off your high horse and stop obsessing over a fucking hammer The author should take his own advice. It is a tool and a useful one at that, why all the rage bruh.

vsgherzi 10mo ago
The point he’s trying to make it’s that it’s become a default like react has. People pick things because they’re the default not because they’re the right tool for the job. Of course there’s less nuance in the article but I think there is something to be said about picking the right tool for the job and how it’s strangely not the norm in the field especially for web.
- dymk 10mo ago
  No browsers ship with Tailwind or React pre-loaded. Node and npm don’t come with it loaded. It’s not a default, it’s just popular.
  - csspurist 10mo ago
    Tailwind is popular with humans, but it is the default for LLMs, which is why we see it everywhere now.
    - dymk 10mo ago
      I just tested it, Claude and Gemini spat out a bunch of vanilla CSS. Popular != default
      - csspurist 10mo ago
        [flagged]
        queenkjuul 10mo ago
        Well it's clearly not the default for all LLMs then is it? Which ones IS it the default in?
guywithahat 10mo ago
I get the authors intent at angry humor (especially since it's a response to justfuckingusetailwind.com) but it does feel hypocritical. I also think CSS frameworks will be here to stay so long as many of the big backend frameworks like Ruby on Rails and Elixir Phoenix use generators. If they're generating pages they may as well throw CSS in there, and I don't want them using custom CSS. If I'm building a static site though I certainly wouldn't use a framework, and I think the author is right in some regards
- llmslave2 10mo ago
  I agree about frameworks but I never considered TW to be a framework. It's a tool for generating utility classes, the fact it has basic spacing and colours never seemed frameworkish to me. I don't really see people getting angry about utility-based css, just tailwind for some reason.
  - queenkjuul 10mo ago
    If it's popular, it's bad, unless i happened to make it. -HN users (apparently) (Yeah I know not all of them don't kill me)

vsgherzi 10mo ago

The point he’s trying to make it’s that it’s become a default like react has. People pick things because they’re the default not because they’re the right tool for the job. Of course there’s less nuance in the article but I think there is something to be said about picking the right tool for the job and how it’s strangely not the norm in the field especially for web.

dymk 10mo ago
No browsers ship with Tailwind or React pre-loaded. Node and npm don’t come with it loaded. It’s not a default, it’s just popular.
- csspurist 10mo ago
  Tailwind is popular with humans, but it is the default for LLMs, which is why we see it everywhere now.
  - dymk 10mo ago
    I just tested it, Claude and Gemini spat out a bunch of vanilla CSS. Popular != default
    - csspurist 10mo ago
      [flagged]
      - queenkjuul 10mo ago
        Well it's clearly not the default for all LLMs then is it? Which ones IS it the default in?

guywithahat 10mo ago

I get the authors intent at angry humor (especially since it's a response to justfuckingusetailwind.com) but it does feel hypocritical. I also think CSS frameworks will be here to stay so long as many of the big backend frameworks like Ruby on Rails and Elixir Phoenix use generators. If they're generating pages they may as well throw CSS in there, and I don't want them using custom CSS. If I'm building a static site though I certainly wouldn't use a framework, and I think the author is right in some regards

llmslave2 10mo ago
I agree about frameworks but I never considered TW to be a framework. It's a tool for generating utility classes, the fact it has basic spacing and colours never seemed frameworkish to me. I don't really see people getting angry about utility-based css, just tailwind for some reason.
- queenkjuul 10mo ago
  If it's popular, it's bad, unless i happened to make it. -HN users (apparently) (Yeah I know not all of them don't kill me)