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Valve is actually extremely small, I've heard estimates at around 350-400 people. They're also a flat organization, with all the good and bad that brings, so s

by tapoxi 10mo ago

Valve is actually extremely small, I've heard estimates at around 350-400 people. They're also a flat organization, with all the good and bad that brings, so scaling with contractors is easier than bringing on employees that might want to work on something else instead.

sneak 10mo ago
300 people isn’t “extremely small” for a company. I don’t work with/for companies over 100 people, for example, and those are already quite big.
- hatthew 10mo ago
  the implied observation is that valve is extremely small relative to what it does and how big most people would expect it to be
- frakkingcylons 10mo ago
  I think a better way to think of it is in terms of revenue per employee. Valve is WAY up there.
- PlanksVariable 10mo ago
  Of course smaller companies exist — there are 1 person companies! But in a world where many tech companies have 50,000+ employees, 300 is much closer to 100 or 10 and they can all be considered small. And then you consider it in context: a company with huge impact, brand recognition, and revenue (about $50M/employee in 2025). They’ve remained extremely small compared to how big they could grow.
  - sneak 10mo ago
    > many tech companies have 50,000+ employees There are not many tech companies with 50k+ employees, as a point of fact. I’m not arguing just to argue - 300 people isn’t small by any measure. It’s absolutely not “extremely small” as was claimed. It’s not relatively small, it’s not “small for what they are doing”, it’s just not small at all. 300 people is a large company. The fact that a very small number of ultrahuge companies exist doesn’t change that. For context, 300 people is substantially larger than the median company headcount in Germany, which is the largest economy in the EU.
    - PlanksVariable 10mo ago
      You certainly seem to be arguing just to argue. You’re comparing Valve to the companies you choose to work for or the median German company, but those are irrelevant. You’re using the wrong reference set. Valve is a global, revenue-dominant, platform-level technology company. In its category, 300 employees is extremely small. Valve is not a German company, so that’s an odd context, but if you want to use Germany for reference, here are the five German companies with the closest revenue to Valve’s: - Infineon Technologies, $16.4B revenue, 57,000 employees - Evonik Industries, $16B, 31,930 employees - Covestro, $15.2B, 17,520 employees - Commerzbank, $14.6B, 39,000 employees - Zalando, $12.9B, 15,793 employees
    - hatthew 10mo ago
      Would you say a country of 300 people isn't small? Big, small, etc. are relative terms. There is no way to decide whether or not 300 is small without implicitly saying what it's small relative to. In context, it was obvious that the point being made was "valve is too small to have direct employees working on things other than the core business"
- tester756 10mo ago
  300 people running Steam, creating games and maintaining Steam Deck / Linux and stuff? Yes, 300 is quite small.
- zipy124 10mo ago
  300 is extremely small for a company of their size in terms of revenue and impact. Linus media group and their other companies for instance is over 100 people, and is much smaller in impact and revenue than a company like valve, despite not being far off the number of employers (within an order of magnitude)...

by tapoxi 10mo ago

sneak 10mo ago

300 people isn’t “extremely small” for a company. I don’t work with/for companies over 100 people, for example, and those are already quite big.

hatthew 10mo ago
the implied observation is that valve is extremely small relative to what it does and how big most people would expect it to be
frakkingcylons 10mo ago
I think a better way to think of it is in terms of revenue per employee. Valve is WAY up there.
PlanksVariable 10mo ago
Of course smaller companies exist — there are 1 person companies! But in a world where many tech companies have 50,000+ employees, 300 is much closer to 100 or 10 and they can all be considered small. And then you consider it in context: a company with huge impact, brand recognition, and revenue (about $50M/employee in 2025). They’ve remained extremely small compared to how big they could grow.
- sneak 10mo ago
  > many tech companies have 50,000+ employees There are not many tech companies with 50k+ employees, as a point of fact. I’m not arguing just to argue - 300 people isn’t small by any measure. It’s absolutely not “extremely small” as was claimed. It’s not relatively small, it’s not “small for what they are doing”, it’s just not small at all. 300 people is a large company. The fact that a very small number of ultrahuge companies exist doesn’t change that. For context, 300 people is substantially larger than the median company headcount in Germany, which is the largest economy in the EU.
  - PlanksVariable 10mo ago
    You certainly seem to be arguing just to argue. You’re comparing Valve to the companies you choose to work for or the median German company, but those are irrelevant. You’re using the wrong reference set. Valve is a global, revenue-dominant, platform-level technology company. In its category, 300 employees is extremely small. Valve is not a German company, so that’s an odd context, but if you want to use Germany for reference, here are the five German companies with the closest revenue to Valve’s: - Infineon Technologies, $16.4B revenue, 57,000 employees - Evonik Industries, $16B, 31,930 employees - Covestro, $15.2B, 17,520 employees - Commerzbank, $14.6B, 39,000 employees - Zalando, $12.9B, 15,793 employees
  - hatthew 10mo ago
    Would you say a country of 300 people isn't small? Big, small, etc. are relative terms. There is no way to decide whether or not 300 is small without implicitly saying what it's small relative to. In context, it was obvious that the point being made was "valve is too small to have direct employees working on things other than the core business"
tester756 10mo ago
300 people running Steam, creating games and maintaining Steam Deck / Linux and stuff? Yes, 300 is quite small.
zipy124 10mo ago
300 is extremely small for a company of their size in terms of revenue and impact. Linus media group and their other companies for instance is over 100 people, and is much smaller in impact and revenue than a company like valve, despite not being far off the number of employers (within an order of magnitude)...