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Microsoft had already announced previously that the SDK will be out at WP8 launch, there will be 100K+ WP7 apps available in the store at launch. The API and de

Microsoft had already announced previously that the SDK will be out at WP8 launch, there will be 100K+ WP7 apps available in the store at launch. The API and dev tools went through a huge shift from Win CE as the kernel in WP7 to the NT kernel in WP8. It makes more sense to launch when it's ready instead of rushing it out to meet a deadline. So the "two weeks away, still no SDK" is just trolling for page hits, and unfortunately getting them.

tomrod 14y ago
I agree. Smells fishy.
adjwilli 14y ago
Agreed, ExtremeTech is not my favorite news source. Their atrocious mobile interface reflects their editorial stance, all style and no substance
- jpro 14y ago
  I also am sensing ExtremeTech has a vendetta against MS.
  - freehunter 14y ago
    They're the Sun or Fox News or TMZ of tech journalism. Controversy sells, and they do business.
katabatic 14y ago
Actually, there has not really been a huge shift in the API or the dev tools. Yes, there is a new native layer called "Windows Phone Runtime", which is a partial, semi-overlapping subset of the Windows Runtime found in Windows 8. However, it's partial and incomplete, and mostly targeted at game developers - to access most of the features of Windows Phone 8, you need to write your apps in a managed language, accessing the .NET API for Windows Phone, which is pretty much the same as it's always been, with a few minor incompatibilities, even in so-called "compatibility mode" for WP7 apps. EDIT: That was a hideous run-on sentence, but I kinda like it.
- cooldeal 14y ago
  >Actually, there has not really been a huge shift in the API or the dev tools. I had meant dev tools as in the API and SDK code written by Microsoft. There is no big change in the app developer facing dev tools, but internally the kernel has shifted, thus Microsoft developers needed to port the same API to a different kernel, so that's what I meant by a big change.
  - katabatic 14y ago
    Ah, gotcha - I misunderstood what you meant there. I've seen the current state of the SDK and API, and while I understand porting to a new kernel was probably a lot of work for them, it makes even less sense considering that most of the WinRT APIs available in Win8 are not there in WP8 - it leaves me wondering what, exactly, they hoped to gain; so far it doesn't seem like a win for developers, and you can't write a full-featured native app for WP8. Maybe you'll be able to for WP9 (if the platform survives that long).
sukuriant 14y ago
ack, didn't mean to downvote you

tomrod 14y ago

I agree. Smells fishy.

adjwilli 14y ago

Agreed, ExtremeTech is not my favorite news source. Their atrocious mobile interface reflects their editorial stance, all style and no substance

jpro 14y ago
I also am sensing ExtremeTech has a vendetta against MS.
- freehunter 14y ago
  They're the Sun or Fox News or TMZ of tech journalism. Controversy sells, and they do business.

katabatic 14y ago

Actually, there has not really been a huge shift in the API or the dev tools. Yes, there is a new native layer called "Windows Phone Runtime", which is a partial, semi-overlapping subset of the Windows Runtime found in Windows 8. However, it's partial and incomplete, and mostly targeted at game developers - to access most of the features of Windows Phone 8, you need to write your apps in a managed language, accessing the .NET API for Windows Phone, which is pretty much the same as it's always been, with a few minor incompatibilities, even in so-called "compatibility mode" for WP7 apps. EDIT: That was a hideous run-on sentence, but I kinda like it.

cooldeal 14y ago
>Actually, there has not really been a huge shift in the API or the dev tools. I had meant dev tools as in the API and SDK code written by Microsoft. There is no big change in the app developer facing dev tools, but internally the kernel has shifted, thus Microsoft developers needed to port the same API to a different kernel, so that's what I meant by a big change.
- katabatic 14y ago
  Ah, gotcha - I misunderstood what you meant there. I've seen the current state of the SDK and API, and while I understand porting to a new kernel was probably a lot of work for them, it makes even less sense considering that most of the WinRT APIs available in Win8 are not there in WP8 - it leaves me wondering what, exactly, they hoped to gain; so far it doesn't seem like a win for developers, and you can't write a full-featured native app for WP8. Maybe you'll be able to for WP9 (if the platform survives that long).

sukuriant 14y ago

ack, didn't mean to downvote you