I agree. It also points out to me my biggest complaint with calling programmers "software engineers". A Professional Engineer (i.e. licensed, capital P and E) w

I agree. It also points out to me my biggest complaint with calling programmers "software engineers". A Professional Engineer (i.e. licensed, capital P and E) would never say, "Oh, you don't have an arc welder? No rivet gun? Well, I suppose we could hold that bridge together with solder and a few toggle bolts."