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Too bad the only people that will watch this are people who already understand the terror of what is happening. It might have helped a little if it had aired. M
by why-o-why 10mo ago
Too bad the only people that will watch this are people who already understand the terror of what is happening. It might have helped a little if it had aired. My MAGA dad still watches 60 Minutes (no idea why, habit?) This might have penetrated his TDS-addled skull if it had aired. But the takeover of CBS by Trump and Ellison (and his 1980's-college-villain son) with Weiss is complete, and vile.
- suzdude 10mo agoMaybe suggest he watch? Maybe he's interested in what CBS's leadership refused to tell him. Streisand Effect and all.
- why-o-why 10mo agoI debated asking, but I talk to him only a few times a year and we both work really hard to avoid politics. I realize it is my responsibility if I want to see change, but I just lack the skills.
- mlrtime 10mo agoYour (positive) relationship with him is way more important than trying to change his mind politically.
- Alive-in-2025 10mo agoThis parental situation is sadly repeated endlessly in the US. My dad is a wealthy retired tech executive whose mind was seemingly taken over by Fox News. He's kind of now in an anti democratic cult and he gets angry if he is even exposed to other news sources.
- mlrtime 10mo agoI wish I could get your viewpoint on this when he passes, if you still feel the same way.
- Alive-in-2025 10mo agoI will feel sad when he passes and I already feel the loss of being able to talk to him about anything. My brother says the same thing. He doesn't even talk to his grandkids much. I think this is sadly common.
- TimorousBestie 10mo agoYou don’t actually know this. Plenty of parents have stopped interacting with their children over politics, and vice versa. Really think you should consider not giving advice to people from a place of ignorance regarding their individual family situations.
- mlrtime 10mo agoUnless a Parent/Child was physically or mentally abused (by clinical standards) then I confident that stopping interacting with them over politics alone is foolish.
- christoff12 10mo agoMaybe, but also maybe politics can be a reflection of a person’s actions in a broader sense, for which it is perfectly reasonable to disengage from them when those actions have a negative impact.
- TimorousBestie 10mo agoYeah, I don’t see why one should wait until after the abuse occurs (“by clinical standards”, above commenter says) to begin defending oneself. As you say, politics isn’t divorced from the rest of their psyche. It’s predictable that a person who e.g. yells slurs and threatens violence against (whoever they perceive as) gay people on TV is going to progress to actual violence against the gay people in their life, more often than not.
- 47282847 10mo agoI’ve read lots of books on psychotherapy, and the verdict is a hard disagree on that. The idea of positive relationships to parents is a toxic one, and leads to more transgenerational suffering. It’s good to process the past sufficiently to hold no grudge, but it’s still necessary for mental hygiene to set and enforce boundaries. The most important element of this is grief. Like other posters replied, it is not necessary nor healthy to suppress and wait with anger and grief processing till after their death, and plenty of opportunity to work through unfinished business with them ever after their passing (eg with representatives in constellations work).
- kristopolous 10mo agoIn any media, people only see what they want. There's a psychological term for this, Motivated Reasoning. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motivated_reasoning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motivated_reasoning If you want to break this you have to know the person and ask key questions afterwards. Their distortion field is held together by beliefs and principles, not empirical analysis. For instance, for my father, the question "how is this treating people responsibly? How can we expect the behavior of those guards to be held accountable?" would pierce this ... but really you have to know how the person doing motivated reasoning thinks.
- why-o-why 10mo agoSo does this apply to every single person all the time?
- kristopolous 10mo agoNothing does. It's about successful communication of authorial intent. 60 Minutes is not trying to say "Justice Served!" and shake pom-poms here. But, someone could read it that way, and it would be unintended.
- mlrtime 10mo agoHis Dad will be smart enough to know these questions are trying to set him up. Maybe try having a real conversation and not trying to change his mind. After all, there is a good chance you will be that Dad in the future (no matter how hard you tell yourself you won't be). Tell me how I now.
- kristopolous 10mo agoI'm almost 50. I won't be. I have friends who are becoming grandparents now, still no interest. I have half a century of talking with my father. If you think this is my first strategy as opposed to one that took years of therapy and personal struggle, I dunno what to tell you. There's a wide body of social and psychological research on this stuff including multiple university departments (communication, psychology, sociology, management, teaching, etc) because "simply talking to people" doesn't actually work.
- lostlogin 10mo agoI wasn’t aware that CBS’s Ellison is Oracle Ellison’s son. TIL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Ellison https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Ellison