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That's exactly the issue I have with passkeys. All that lockin to big tech. I tried bit warden but most sites with passkeys didn't work with it (like Amazon and

by wkat4242 10mo ago

That's exactly the issue I have with passkeys. All that lockin to big tech. I tried bit warden but most sites with passkeys didn't work with it (like Amazon and PayPal). And on android it only wants to use the Google version (I don't use a Google account on my phone so that's not possible).

izacus 10mo ago
None of what you wrote is true though, is it? Amazon, PayPal work just fine on my 3rd party 1Password extension. And it works just fine on Android as a default passkey provider as well.
- wkat4242 10mo ago
  It does not work for me on my Linux PC with Firefox, PayPal simply refuses to enrol passkeys and Amazon tries but then gives an error. I haven't tried chromium as I don't have it installed. I'll give it another try though. The last time was 1 year ago. I don't normally use Bitwarden so I have to set it up from scratch with vaultwarden etc.
  - ximm 10mo ago
    This is probably a Linux issue. Mac OS and Windows implement the FIDO2 Platform API, which allows them to act as authenticators themselves. Linux does not. See https://github.com/linux-credentials https://github.com/linux-credentials.
    - wkat4242 10mo ago
      With macOS and Windows I'm still stuck in corporate ecosystems though which was my point. I used to use Mac but I couldn't deal with the increasing iOSification and I only use windows now for gaming (VR) because it's such an awful OS. But that's another point, I do use many OSes so being locked in to one ecosystem is not an option. I must also have the option to back up my credentials at all times (eg a cloud service will never suffice) But yeah I should have mentioned Linux. I thought it was the norm here really especially among people advocating against corporate ecosystems.
    - nixosbestos 10mo ago
      Jfc the quality of information shared on this site is abysmal nowadays. I use Bitwarden, I use Android, I use Firefox on Linux. Passkeys work just perfectly fine on all of the sites listed here thus far.
jeroenhd 10mo ago
Bitwarden works just fine for Amazon. Works on my phone too. Even when supplying passkeys over QR code+Bluetooth to another computer, Bitwarden's Android integration works flawlessly. I do believe you need Android 14 for that, though, so if your phone has been abandoned by its manufacturer/your ROM of choice, it'll break. If Bitwarden is bugged out on your computer/phone for whatever reason, there are also alternatives like 1Password.
- wkat4242 10mo ago
  Hm I should try it again, the last time was about a year ago, maybe a little more. I don't normally use bitwarden so I have to set it all up with vaultwarden to make it work. Is it possible now to export the passkey private key though? That was another thing at the time, apparently the fido consortium didn't want keys to be exportable. But I'll try it again, good point. I think with paypal the issue was also that they refuse passkeys in firefox and I don't use chrome so I was stuck there too. With Amazon it tried to enroll me but I got a bunch of errors.

izacus 10mo ago

None of what you wrote is true though, is it? Amazon, PayPal work just fine on my 3rd party 1Password extension. And it works just fine on Android as a default passkey provider as well.

wkat4242 10mo ago
It does not work for me on my Linux PC with Firefox, PayPal simply refuses to enrol passkeys and Amazon tries but then gives an error. I haven't tried chromium as I don't have it installed. I'll give it another try though. The last time was 1 year ago. I don't normally use Bitwarden so I have to set it up from scratch with vaultwarden etc.
- ximm 10mo ago
  This is probably a Linux issue. Mac OS and Windows implement the FIDO2 Platform API, which allows them to act as authenticators themselves. Linux does not. See https://github.com/linux-credentials https://github.com/linux-credentials.
  - wkat4242 10mo ago
    With macOS and Windows I'm still stuck in corporate ecosystems though which was my point. I used to use Mac but I couldn't deal with the increasing iOSification and I only use windows now for gaming (VR) because it's such an awful OS. But that's another point, I do use many OSes so being locked in to one ecosystem is not an option. I must also have the option to back up my credentials at all times (eg a cloud service will never suffice) But yeah I should have mentioned Linux. I thought it was the norm here really especially among people advocating against corporate ecosystems.
  - nixosbestos 10mo ago
    Jfc the quality of information shared on this site is abysmal nowadays. I use Bitwarden, I use Android, I use Firefox on Linux. Passkeys work just perfectly fine on all of the sites listed here thus far.

jeroenhd 10mo ago

Bitwarden works just fine for Amazon. Works on my phone too. Even when supplying passkeys over QR code+Bluetooth to another computer, Bitwarden's Android integration works flawlessly. I do believe you need Android 14 for that, though, so if your phone has been abandoned by its manufacturer/your ROM of choice, it'll break. If Bitwarden is bugged out on your computer/phone for whatever reason, there are also alternatives like 1Password.

wkat4242 10mo ago
Hm I should try it again, the last time was about a year ago, maybe a little more. I don't normally use bitwarden so I have to set it all up with vaultwarden to make it work. Is it possible now to export the passkey private key though? That was another thing at the time, apparently the fido consortium didn't want keys to be exportable. But I'll try it again, good point. I think with paypal the issue was also that they refuse passkeys in firefox and I don't use chrome so I was stuck there too. With Amazon it tried to enroll me but I got a bunch of errors.