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A lot of high end cars get wrecked because (1) their owners want to drive them fast to test out what they paid for, and (2) their owners are not trained to driv

by bhouston 10mo ago

A lot of high end cars get wrecked because (1) their owners want to drive them fast to test out what they paid for, and (2) their owners are not trained to drive high performance cars and (3) their owners drive them on public roads where there are a lot of hazards. It isn't that different than the non-significant number of rich people that die in private aviation crashes (those that fly themselves, I think private jets are a lot safer.)

tsunamifury 10mo ago
The fact that you can’t tell the difference between a driver and a passengers responsibility is shocking to me.
- junon 10mo ago
  You've yet to provide a source for this. That's why the criticisms of your claims.
  - tsunamifury 10mo ago
    Video of him stunting, killing himself and his passenger. Purely his fault and reckless and purposeful behavior. https://www.reddit.com/r/CatastrophicFailure/comments/1ptc7cw/removed_by_moderator/ https://www.reddit.com/r/CatastrophicFailure/comments/1ptc7c...
    - E39M5S62 10mo ago
      Looks like the post was neutered, but this is another source. The speed of the car was well in excess of what the road conditions could tolerate. Horrible crash, but the fault can be placed squarely on the driver of the car. https://www.indiatimes.com/trending/what-happened-to-vince-zampella-viral-video-shows-call-of-duty-cocreators-fatal-car-crash/articleshow/126131687.html https://www.indiatimes.com/trending/what-happened-to-vince-z...
bayarearefugee 10mo ago
Sometimes it is (4) their owners let a friend drive the car and the friend is not remotely equipped to handle the car at the speeds involved. Not saying that's what happened here (I haven't seen any reporting on who was driving vs who was the passenger) but it is at least part of the reason Paul Walker is dead. Of course, the owners themselves even if they are skilled drivers, shouldn't be driving outside of legal limits on public roads. If you have an exotic sports car worth half a million dollars and you want to go crazy with it then rent a track, you can afford it.
- DennisP 10mo ago
  And a track day can cost just a few hundred bucks. It's not like you have to rent a whole track just for yourself.
DennisP 10mo ago
Yep. I started looking into sports cars recently, and the general consensus among enthusiasts seems to be that for public roads, if you're not going to drive at reckless speeds then you'll have more fun driving a slow car fast than driving a fast car slow. Fun handling with modest horsepower is the way to go, you can have a great time without exceeding normal road speeds.
- __turbobrew__ 10mo ago
  That is why people love miatas.

tsunamifury 10mo ago

The fact that you can’t tell the difference between a driver and a passengers responsibility is shocking to me.

junon 10mo ago
You've yet to provide a source for this. That's why the criticisms of your claims.
- tsunamifury 10mo ago
  Video of him stunting, killing himself and his passenger. Purely his fault and reckless and purposeful behavior. https://www.reddit.com/r/CatastrophicFailure/comments/1ptc7cw/removed_by_moderator/ https://www.reddit.com/r/CatastrophicFailure/comments/1ptc7c...
  - E39M5S62 10mo ago
    Looks like the post was neutered, but this is another source. The speed of the car was well in excess of what the road conditions could tolerate. Horrible crash, but the fault can be placed squarely on the driver of the car. https://www.indiatimes.com/trending/what-happened-to-vince-zampella-viral-video-shows-call-of-duty-cocreators-fatal-car-crash/articleshow/126131687.html https://www.indiatimes.com/trending/what-happened-to-vince-z...

bayarearefugee 10mo ago

Sometimes it is (4) their owners let a friend drive the car and the friend is not remotely equipped to handle the car at the speeds involved. Not saying that's what happened here (I haven't seen any reporting on who was driving vs who was the passenger) but it is at least part of the reason Paul Walker is dead. Of course, the owners themselves even if they are skilled drivers, shouldn't be driving outside of legal limits on public roads. If you have an exotic sports car worth half a million dollars and you want to go crazy with it then rent a track, you can afford it.

DennisP 10mo ago
And a track day can cost just a few hundred bucks. It's not like you have to rent a whole track just for yourself.

DennisP 10mo ago

Yep. I started looking into sports cars recently, and the general consensus among enthusiasts seems to be that for public roads, if you're not going to drive at reckless speeds then you'll have more fun driving a slow car fast than driving a fast car slow. Fun handling with modest horsepower is the way to go, you can have a great time without exceeding normal road speeds.

__turbobrew__ 10mo ago
That is why people love miatas.