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Ah no, I’m pretty certain allowing the sale of military-grade automatic weapons is the issue. That’s a tool for warfare, and you have deadly shootings every day

by tietjens 10mo ago

Ah no, I’m pretty certain allowing the sale of military-grade automatic weapons is the issue. That’s a tool for warfare, and you have deadly shootings every day.

zetanor 10mo ago
My buddy saw a sign on a gun store where they had a "3 for the price of 2" promotion on M240 machine guns, like who in their right mind would need two of these, let alone three? They proudly displayed "No ID Checks" in their window lettering, too.
- sheikhnbake 10mo ago
  At least part of this is a lie. A transferable M240 is like $400k-600k. And in order to sell those, they have to run a background check as an FFL which requires some form of identification.
- CamperBob2 10mo ago
  No, he saw no such thing, at least not in the USA. You need to call him up and ask him why he lied to you, and ask him not to do that anymore.
sheikhnbake 10mo ago
Automatic weapons aren't being sold en masse and are rarely used in violent crime. The most common culprits are regular hand guns. The banning of which would require draconian laws. Laws that would need to be enforced, failing a massive culture shift resulting in the vast majority of gun owners voluntarily turning in their arsenals.
- tietjens 10mo ago
  You can down vote me but bump stocks are legal. The difference seems semantic. There are many, many steps that could be taken in the USA to reduce access to weapons before reaching outright banning. Obviously. And also the idea that banning handguns would be draconian is hilarious. Try talking to anyone from UK, ANZ, Europe, etc. No one is crying about too much regulation.
  - 15155 10mo ago
    Want to know the easiest way to spot someone who has never used a bump stock or an actual full auto firearm? They'll cite bump stocks as a threat.
  - sheikhnbake 10mo ago
    Bump stocks are also extremely rare when it comes to violent crime. I would also say they're the tip of the ice berg when it comes to modifying AR's. I'm gonna take a guess that you aren't overly familiar with firearms, but I say bump stocks being legal are a non-issue because a much simpler and cheaper modification to 90% of AR-15's will make them automatic rifles. The modification can be accomplished with a bit of wire coat hanger, or about 15 cents worth of plastic. And I say draconian in the context of existing American gun laws. But real talk, I'm not a gun nut. I'm a leftist that believes the working class should be armed and as a society we need to move towards a system that does mitigate violence. Gun laws alone won't and can't do that. And unless we have a national divorce, I don't see effective gun legislation happening.
JuniperMesos 10mo ago
https://hwfo.substack.com/p/ar-15s-are-mindbogglingly-safe https://hwfo.substack.com/p/ar-15s-are-mindbogglingly-safe > While the FBI did break these down by weapon type, they didn’t differentiate between AR-15s or similarly patterned rifles, and grandpa’s bolt action deer rifle. All told, in 2019 there were 364 rifle murders, out of a total of 10,258 firearm murders, accounting for approximately 3.5% of total firearm murders. Nobody uses rifles to murder people because they’re big, bulky, difficult to conceal, and a handgun can do the job just as well.

Ah no, I’m pretty certain allowing the sale of military-grade automatic weapons is the issue. That’s a tool for warfare, and you have deadly shootings every day.

zetanor 10mo ago

My buddy saw a sign on a gun store where they had a "3 for the price of 2" promotion on M240 machine guns, like who in their right mind would need two of these, let alone three? They proudly displayed "No ID Checks" in their window lettering, too.

sheikhnbake 10mo ago
At least part of this is a lie. A transferable M240 is like $400k-600k. And in order to sell those, they have to run a background check as an FFL which requires some form of identification.
CamperBob2 10mo ago
No, he saw no such thing, at least not in the USA. You need to call him up and ask him why he lied to you, and ask him not to do that anymore.

sheikhnbake 10mo ago

Automatic weapons aren't being sold en masse and are rarely used in violent crime. The most common culprits are regular hand guns. The banning of which would require draconian laws. Laws that would need to be enforced, failing a massive culture shift resulting in the vast majority of gun owners voluntarily turning in their arsenals.

tietjens 10mo ago
You can down vote me but bump stocks are legal. The difference seems semantic. There are many, many steps that could be taken in the USA to reduce access to weapons before reaching outright banning. Obviously. And also the idea that banning handguns would be draconian is hilarious. Try talking to anyone from UK, ANZ, Europe, etc. No one is crying about too much regulation.
- 15155 10mo ago
  Want to know the easiest way to spot someone who has never used a bump stock or an actual full auto firearm? They'll cite bump stocks as a threat.
- sheikhnbake 10mo ago
  Bump stocks are also extremely rare when it comes to violent crime. I would also say they're the tip of the ice berg when it comes to modifying AR's. I'm gonna take a guess that you aren't overly familiar with firearms, but I say bump stocks being legal are a non-issue because a much simpler and cheaper modification to 90% of AR-15's will make them automatic rifles. The modification can be accomplished with a bit of wire coat hanger, or about 15 cents worth of plastic. And I say draconian in the context of existing American gun laws. But real talk, I'm not a gun nut. I'm a leftist that believes the working class should be armed and as a society we need to move towards a system that does mitigate violence. Gun laws alone won't and can't do that. And unless we have a national divorce, I don't see effective gun legislation happening.

JuniperMesos 10mo ago

https://hwfo.substack.com/p/ar-15s-are-mindbogglingly-safe https://hwfo.substack.com/p/ar-15s-are-mindbogglingly-safe > While the FBI did break these down by weapon type, they didn’t differentiate between AR-15s or similarly patterned rifles, and grandpa’s bolt action deer rifle. All told, in 2019 there were 364 rifle murders, out of a total of 10,258 firearm murders, accounting for approximately 3.5% of total firearm murders. Nobody uses rifles to murder people because they’re big, bulky, difficult to conceal, and a handgun can do the job just as well.