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Convenience won. How many people are actually going to download a torrent client, navigate through some massive torrent file collection to check the files of t

by int32_64 10mo ago

Convenience won. How many people are actually going to download a torrent client, navigate through some massive torrent file collection to check the files of the artists they want to download so they can upload mp3s to their phone over a USB cable like it's 2004 again, just so they can avoid paying Spotify?

unbelievably 10mo ago
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cakealert 10mo ago
A sufficiently seeded torrent is a high latency static CDN. You just need a client that can make use of it. I'm not sure if anyone will be interested in making one however, you can already get a patched Spotify APK from the usual mobile piracy spaces that's good enough.
- Raed667 10mo ago
  Wasn't popcorn-time basically video streaming backed by torrent ? Why can't it be the same for audio ? The metadata is 200 GB which can be easily indexed and could be made searchable, then you download only what you need
- grandpoobah 10mo ago
  Now that's a cool idea.
madduci 10mo ago
And specifically, not everybody owns a NAS with 300 TB capacity. At 30TB drive for almost 1000€, we are talking about 10-15000€. As mentioned in other stories, this is really welcomed by other big corps or LLM related companies
- lm28469 10mo ago
  Most people won't listen to 10tb of unique tracks in their entire lives, let alone 30tb or 300tb... 1tb of music is about a full year of 24/7 unique tracks
- nickv 10mo ago
  Datahorder here, a 26tb drive is about $375, so I don't think your quote of 30tb drive prices make sense. You can get about 80tb for $1000
  - madduci 10mo ago
    In Germany the 30TB Ironwolf NAS edition is quoted € 975 on Amazon. The 22TB is € 719
realusername 10mo ago
Great, so the copyright conglomerates have nothing to complain about if it's useless then.
halJordan 10mo ago
That's unnecessarily worst case. No one is seriously using a usb cable to upload mp3s. There are plenty of paid and free spotify clones anyone can throw up.
makeitdouble 10mo ago
> upload mp3s to their phone over a USB cable The more interesting part is how this is your mental model of actually "physically" owning music. The amount of messaging that will be needed to explain how home servers are convenient is pretty crazy.
_lvbh 10mo ago
> upload mp3s to their phone over a USB cable like it's 2004 again, just so they can avoid paying Spotify? I do that not because I don't want to pay Spotify, but because it is more convenient. I want all of my music in one place (VLC), and Spotify doesn't let me export my library as OPUS or Flac. Some stuff in my library is only posted on SoundCloud, some are old mp3 recordings by friends, and another 30% are only on YouTube (small cover artists)

unbelievably 10mo ago

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cakealert 10mo ago

A sufficiently seeded torrent is a high latency static CDN. You just need a client that can make use of it. I'm not sure if anyone will be interested in making one however, you can already get a patched Spotify APK from the usual mobile piracy spaces that's good enough.

Raed667 10mo ago
Wasn't popcorn-time basically video streaming backed by torrent ? Why can't it be the same for audio ? The metadata is 200 GB which can be easily indexed and could be made searchable, then you download only what you need
grandpoobah 10mo ago
Now that's a cool idea.

madduci 10mo ago

And specifically, not everybody owns a NAS with 300 TB capacity. At 30TB drive for almost 1000€, we are talking about 10-15000€. As mentioned in other stories, this is really welcomed by other big corps or LLM related companies

lm28469 10mo ago
Most people won't listen to 10tb of unique tracks in their entire lives, let alone 30tb or 300tb... 1tb of music is about a full year of 24/7 unique tracks
nickv 10mo ago
Datahorder here, a 26tb drive is about $375, so I don't think your quote of 30tb drive prices make sense. You can get about 80tb for $1000
- madduci 10mo ago
  In Germany the 30TB Ironwolf NAS edition is quoted € 975 on Amazon. The 22TB is € 719

realusername 10mo ago

Great, so the copyright conglomerates have nothing to complain about if it's useless then.

halJordan 10mo ago

That's unnecessarily worst case. No one is seriously using a usb cable to upload mp3s. There are plenty of paid and free spotify clones anyone can throw up.

makeitdouble 10mo ago

> upload mp3s to their phone over a USB cable The more interesting part is how this is your mental model of actually "physically" owning music. The amount of messaging that will be needed to explain how home servers are convenient is pretty crazy.

_lvbh 10mo ago

> upload mp3s to their phone over a USB cable like it's 2004 again, just so they can avoid paying Spotify? I do that not because I don't want to pay Spotify, but because it is more convenient. I want all of my music in one place (VLC), and Spotify doesn't let me export my library as OPUS or Flac. Some stuff in my library is only posted on SoundCloud, some are old mp3 recordings by friends, and another 30% are only on YouTube (small cover artists)