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Only the first one. Ofc under the hood they will stay, but I think its time to ditch random access model and pull fetching and concept of time closer to program

• uecker 10mo ago
  This is basically what many functional programming languages do. This always came with plausibly sounding claims that this allows so much better optimizations that this soon will surpass imperative programs in performance, but this never materialized (it still did not - even though Rust fans now adopted this claim, it still isn't quite true). Also control over explicit memory layout is still more important.
  • aw1621107 10mo ago
    Gah, can't believe I forgot about functional programming languages here :( > even though Rust fans now adopted this claim Did they? Rust's references seem pretty pointer-like to me on the scale of "has pointers" to "pointers have been entirely removed from the language". (Obviously Rust has actual pointers as well, but since usefully using them requires unsafe I assume they're out of scope here)
    • uecker 10mo ago
      What I meant is that Rust has stricter aliasing rules which make some optimization possible without extra annotations, but this is balanced out by many other issues.
      • aw1621107 10mo ago
        Sure, but I think the presence/absence of aliasing is different from what GP was wondering/asking about, which was the removal of pointers from the programmer-facing model.