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What the hell are you on about. "Native brit" does not identify a people the way "native american" does. There is no entry in the dictionary for "native brit"

• TimTheTinker 10mo ago
  OP was trying to talk about ethnic brits, and I think that was clear from the context. He was then rebuked for that.
  • tovej 10mo ago
    The OP was me. I pointed out how DHH's uses the term "native brit" to mean "white person" even though that is not the meaning of "native", which means you were born somewhere.
    • throwawaypath 10mo ago
      >I pointed out how DHH's uses the term "native brit" to mean "white person" Nowhere in his post does he mention "White person." He specifically mentions "native Brits." The only indigenous Brits native to the Britain are White Brits.
      • tovej 10mo ago
        He links to a wikipedia article and cites a percentage for "native brits". That number on the wikipedia page is for white brits. The only groups who could call themselves indigenous to Britain are the Celts, the Cornish, and the Bretons. The English (Anglo-Saxon) culture is foreign to the British isles. Even then, none of this is related to skin tone. It's the culture that defines these potentially indigenous Celtic groups.
        • throwawaypath 10mo ago
          >He links to a wikipedia article and cites a percentage for "native brits". That number on the wikipedia page is for white brits. White Brits are the only indigenous, native Brits to Britain. >The only groups who could call themselves indigenous to Britain are the Celts, the Cornish, and the Bretons. The English (Anglo-Saxon) culture is foreign to the British isles. False. The English are the extant indigenous people to England, and descend from ancient populations: "The English largely descend from two main historical population groups: the West Germanic tribes, including the Angles, Saxons, and Jutes who settled in eastern and southern Britain following the withdrawal of the Western Roman Empire, and the Romano-British Brittonic speakers who already lived there." [0] QED. >Even then, none of this is related to skin tone. Glad you finally agree and admit to this. >It's the culture that defines these potentially indigenous Celtic groups. English culture is the current indigenous, native culture to England. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_people
          • tovej 10mo ago
            That's funny, your own statements are in contradiction with your conclusions. You say the English are descendants of west germanic tribes from the continent, and "Romano-British" groups (do you think the Romans were an Indigenous people? of the British isles?), then you say this proves they are indigenous. Please do the minimum effort and connect the quote you did to what you claim it states. This does not contradict anything in my previous post. QED? Nothing was demonstrated. Demonstrate, please. It is funny, because I did not introduce the term indigenous to this discussion, you did (for some strange reason). The term "indigenous" refers to a non-dominant, often colonized group of people with a connection to the land and traditional living on that land [1] The English are neither. The Celtic people, if anyone, has a claim to this status on the British isles. They were living on the land for hundrds of years before they were colonized by the Romans (and other groups later, including the English). I think it's sweet that you're trying to muddy things up by claiming I "finally agree" about skin tone being unrelated to culture or the adjective native. That's been my argument the whole time. You are the one stating that "White British" is the same as "Native Brit". [1] https://whc.unesco.org/en/glossary/275/ https://whc.unesco.org/en/glossary/275/
• throwawaypath 10mo ago
  "The English people are an ethnic group [...] native to England." [0] "[White Brits] is an ethnicity classification used for the White population identifying as English..." [1] The English are the native and indigenous ethnic group to England (London). White Brits are a category that includes the English. QED. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_people [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_British https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_British
  • tovej 10mo ago
    The English are not indigenous to Britain. The best case for an indigenous culture is the Celts, Cornish, and Welsh. None of this has anything to do with being white, it's the language that defines belonging to these groups.
    • throwawaypath 10mo ago
      >The English are not indigenous to Britain. False. The English are the extant indigenous people to England, and descend from ancient populations: "The English largely descend from two main historical population groups: the West Germanic tribes, including the Angles, Saxons, and Jutes who settled in eastern and southern Britain following the withdrawal of the Western Roman Empire, and the Romano-British Brittonic speakers who already lived there." [0] QED. >The best case for an indigenous culture is the Celts, Cornish, and Welsh. Those are also "White Brits" who are indigenous to their respective areas. >None of this has anything to do with being white Glad you finally agree and admit to this. >it's the language that defines belonging to these groups. English language and culture is the current indigenous, native culture to England. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_people