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Having a job that requires Windows is not what I would call self-inflicted.

db48x 9mo ago
True. It is a would inflicted by your employer in that case. Maybe you could find a different one that doesn’t inflict such wounds.
- detritus 9mo ago
  What a bubble you exist in. I'm self-employed and my entire suite of software is either windows or apple only and I have 'been a pc' for nearly thirty years and have pc hardware that fulfills all my requirements and can't run apple software. I'm eyeing up a shift to apple when my current hardware fails me, but it's impossible for me to just go Linux.
  - mistercheph 9mo ago
    You are a digital serf, dependent on the good will and love of a lord that gives you access in exchange for a tax. I really wish free(libre) tools existed that allowed you to do your work. Hopefully they will in the future, I am sure someone has tried/is trying to build them.
  - tombert 9mo ago
    I think in your situation I'd use a Mac just because they don't show you a bunch of advertising bullshit all the time, but I do understand the overall point: a lot of software simply doesn't exist on Linux. Wine is getting better and better, but it's still not perfect yet. I am so wishing that they figure out a way to get modern MS Office working, and then I feel like a lot of people's only reasons for staying on Windows would suddenly disappear.
    - detritus 9mo ago
      I don't get the advertising thing - I don't see any at all on Windows 10?
      - tombert 9mo ago
        I don’t have a windows computer so I am going with I have seen in Youtube, but people have said that Windows 11 has been adding ads to explorer and start.
  - stOneskull 9mo ago
    sounds like a bubble
    - detritus 9mo ago
      Perhaps, but I'm not judging other people in theirs...
  - jorams 9mo ago
    > I'm self-employed and my entire suite of software is either windows or apple only Sounds like we're back to self-inflicted then? If you're self-employed supposedly that software suite was your decision.
    - detritus 9mo ago
      I mean there are literally no good Linux alternatives, but sure?
prmoustache 9mo ago
That is besides the point. In that case it is self-inflicted by the company choosing to depend on it.
- AdrianB1 9mo ago
  Until recently (<10 years ago) Windows and native Windows apps (like Office) were the norm in most companies. Almost all employees knew how to use Windows. Re-training all was difficult. Now, with mostly web-apps for most non-IT employees it is a realistic change, but I am still not sure corporations will want to run without Active Directory and Crowdstrike.
layer8 9mo ago
The job should give you Windows Enterprise with the correct group policies that disable most of the enshittification. Otherwise it’s self-inflicted.

db48x 9mo ago

True. It is a would inflicted by your employer in that case. Maybe you could find a different one that doesn’t inflict such wounds.

detritus 9mo ago
What a bubble you exist in. I'm self-employed and my entire suite of software is either windows or apple only and I have 'been a pc' for nearly thirty years and have pc hardware that fulfills all my requirements and can't run apple software. I'm eyeing up a shift to apple when my current hardware fails me, but it's impossible for me to just go Linux.
- mistercheph 9mo ago
  You are a digital serf, dependent on the good will and love of a lord that gives you access in exchange for a tax. I really wish free(libre) tools existed that allowed you to do your work. Hopefully they will in the future, I am sure someone has tried/is trying to build them.
- tombert 9mo ago
  I think in your situation I'd use a Mac just because they don't show you a bunch of advertising bullshit all the time, but I do understand the overall point: a lot of software simply doesn't exist on Linux. Wine is getting better and better, but it's still not perfect yet. I am so wishing that they figure out a way to get modern MS Office working, and then I feel like a lot of people's only reasons for staying on Windows would suddenly disappear.
  - detritus 9mo ago
    I don't get the advertising thing - I don't see any at all on Windows 10?
    - tombert 9mo ago
      I don’t have a windows computer so I am going with I have seen in Youtube, but people have said that Windows 11 has been adding ads to explorer and start.
- stOneskull 9mo ago
  sounds like a bubble
  - detritus 9mo ago
    Perhaps, but I'm not judging other people in theirs...
- jorams 9mo ago
  > I'm self-employed and my entire suite of software is either windows or apple only Sounds like we're back to self-inflicted then? If you're self-employed supposedly that software suite was your decision.
  - detritus 9mo ago
    I mean there are literally no good Linux alternatives, but sure?

prmoustache 9mo ago

That is besides the point. In that case it is self-inflicted by the company choosing to depend on it.

AdrianB1 9mo ago
Until recently (<10 years ago) Windows and native Windows apps (like Office) were the norm in most companies. Almost all employees knew how to use Windows. Re-training all was difficult. Now, with mostly web-apps for most non-IT employees it is a realistic change, but I am still not sure corporations will want to run without Active Directory and Crowdstrike.

layer8 9mo ago

The job should give you Windows Enterprise with the correct group policies that disable most of the enshittification. Otherwise it’s self-inflicted.