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> There are already MANY laws in the EU and Germany for me regarding privacy Which apply equally to the government?
by hexbin010 10mo ago
> There are already MANY laws in the EU and Germany for me regarding privacy
Which apply equally to the government?
- IlikeKitties 10mo agoYeah, a lot of them apply explicitly to the government. In Germany at least most privacy laws flow from Article 10 of our constitution and for example Article 8 of the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights. Both of which have been used in the past to explicitly remove laws that violated privacy in the name of security.
- hexbin010 10mo agoGermany is definitely a standout. I was taking issue with the blanket reference to the EU The UK when it was in the EU for example had no problem basically doing whatever it liked, relying on exceptions for preventing crime and disorder. I'm sure there are other countries Or like a sibling comment about Italy, who said that the government just ignores the privacy laws
- pavlov 10mo agoGermany has a history of its government using data collected about citizens against them. Much legislation was created after WWII to try to prevent that from happening again.
- rvnx 10mo agoIt hasn't stopped the German Interior Ministry from campaigning for EU-wide chat control and pushing to reinstate mass data retention
- izacus 10mo agoThat's because this campaign is about changing that very law. Saying that "this is blatantly illegal" misses the basic point of this proposal being a CHANGE of the law that makes that illegal.
- tremon 10mo agoNo, it's even worse. This is an attempt to bypass those laws by bringing in a new one at European level, and having that supersede the obnoxious protections in member states' Constitutions (Germany is hardly the only one with such protections).
- izacus 10mo agoIf this passes, Germany would have to approve of it, which makes your diction a bit wierd. A country approving a law at a higher instance that changes their existing law is not bypassing anything.