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Right now EU is not arresting own citizens for failure to provide ID card while america does that even when said people have id card. EU is not demanding 5 yea

by watwut 11mo ago

Right now EU is not arresting own citizens for failure to provide ID card while america does that even when said people have id card. EU is not demanding 5 yeara of social media public from kids entering in. EU is not killing fisherman to feel manly. EU is overall more democratic and more free. The parts that sux Hungary and Slovakia dont sux because of EU, but despite it. It is ok for Germany to not have homeschooling.

nephihaha 11mo ago
The EU is not more "free". There are a lot of things you can't say or will get shut down for. Most of the EU does not have the same freedom of expression or religion that the USA guarantees in its founding documents. The collective cannot have freedom if the individual does not. That includes the right to disagree. The EU and USA are going down the same road. Social media is a part of this censorship of open discussion and is usually American based, but works hand in hand with the European governments. Both European and American governments seem happy to deceive citizens into a surveillance state. It is unacceptable to ban homeschooling. Some children need to be homeschooled, because of disabilities, or even high intelligence. Given the fact that Germany has suffered from both far right and far left dictatorships within living memory, anything that does not promote blind obedience to the state should be encouraged. Many parts of Europe retain a feudal mentality, which includes constant deference to authority.
- mopsi 11mo ago
  > There are a lot of things you can't say or will get shut down for. Such as? I honestly can't think of anything. > It is unacceptable to ban homeschooling. Some children need to be homeschooled, because of disabilities, or even high intelligence. European education laws prioritize the child's right to education and social development over parental autonomy as an absolute. Mandatory schooling laws have been adopted to ensure minimum educational standards and to safeguard against neglect and abuse, which is especially important when it comes to disabilities. Someone with proper training and decades of experience will educate a disabled child far more effectively than a parent whose only guaranteed qualification may be knowing how to have sex.
  - carlosjobim 11mo ago
    Not all European countries have banned home schooling. Not even all members of the EU. As for neglect and abuse of children, the public schools is where you will most readily find it. Including bullying until children commit suicide. And school shootings. Which is a lesser risk at home. No matter which continent.
    - nephihaha 11mo ago
      No one said all EU countries have banned homeschooling. That is just one issue. Schools are a haven for bullying, both by students and teachers. I did have some good teachers but some of them were also the most cruel and abusive people I've ever met.
    - pezezin 11mo ago
      Please tell me more about the daily school shootings in Europe.
  - jenadine 11mo ago
    > Such as? Well, we can't say them. (but it involves nazies, denying genocides, hate speech, and this kind of stuff. It also depends on the country)
  - tmnvix 11mo ago
    > Such as? I honestly can't think of anything. Jacques Baud, recently sanctioned by the EU for promoting conspiracy theories. https://data.europa.eu/apps/eusanctionstracker/subjects/180245 https://data.europa.eu/apps/eusanctionstracker/subjects/1802...
    - mopsi 11mo ago
      He is not an EU citizen and, as a foreigner, acts as a mouthpiece for a hostile dictatorship. The US has sanctioned similar people too, most notably Margarita Simonyan, the editor-in-chief of Russia Today: https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy2559 https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy2559

by watwut 11mo ago

nephihaha 11mo ago

The EU is not more "free". There are a lot of things you can't say or will get shut down for. Most of the EU does not have the same freedom of expression or religion that the USA guarantees in its founding documents. The collective cannot have freedom if the individual does not. That includes the right to disagree. The EU and USA are going down the same road. Social media is a part of this censorship of open discussion and is usually American based, but works hand in hand with the European governments. Both European and American governments seem happy to deceive citizens into a surveillance state. It is unacceptable to ban homeschooling. Some children need to be homeschooled, because of disabilities, or even high intelligence. Given the fact that Germany has suffered from both far right and far left dictatorships within living memory, anything that does not promote blind obedience to the state should be encouraged. Many parts of Europe retain a feudal mentality, which includes constant deference to authority.

mopsi 11mo ago
> There are a lot of things you can't say or will get shut down for. Such as? I honestly can't think of anything. > It is unacceptable to ban homeschooling. Some children need to be homeschooled, because of disabilities, or even high intelligence. European education laws prioritize the child's right to education and social development over parental autonomy as an absolute. Mandatory schooling laws have been adopted to ensure minimum educational standards and to safeguard against neglect and abuse, which is especially important when it comes to disabilities. Someone with proper training and decades of experience will educate a disabled child far more effectively than a parent whose only guaranteed qualification may be knowing how to have sex.
- carlosjobim 11mo ago
  Not all European countries have banned home schooling. Not even all members of the EU. As for neglect and abuse of children, the public schools is where you will most readily find it. Including bullying until children commit suicide. And school shootings. Which is a lesser risk at home. No matter which continent.
  - nephihaha 11mo ago
    No one said all EU countries have banned homeschooling. That is just one issue. Schools are a haven for bullying, both by students and teachers. I did have some good teachers but some of them were also the most cruel and abusive people I've ever met.
  - pezezin 11mo ago
    Please tell me more about the daily school shootings in Europe.
- jenadine 11mo ago
  > Such as? Well, we can't say them. (but it involves nazies, denying genocides, hate speech, and this kind of stuff. It also depends on the country)
- tmnvix 11mo ago
  > Such as? I honestly can't think of anything. Jacques Baud, recently sanctioned by the EU for promoting conspiracy theories. https://data.europa.eu/apps/eusanctionstracker/subjects/180245 https://data.europa.eu/apps/eusanctionstracker/subjects/1802...
  - mopsi 11mo ago
    He is not an EU citizen and, as a foreigner, acts as a mouthpiece for a hostile dictatorship. The US has sanctioned similar people too, most notably Margarita Simonyan, the editor-in-chief of Russia Today: https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy2559 https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy2559