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Who knew Turbo Vision was still being used — much less updated, Unicode, cross platform, 24-bit color? I’ve been struggling around issues in .Net Terminal.GUI
by vintagedave 10mo ago
Who knew Turbo Vision was still being used — much less updated, Unicode, cross platform, 24-bit color?
I’ve been struggling around issues in .Net Terminal.GUI v2 recently and it really made me miss the OG solid terminal UI library. Silly thing is back when this was a thing I didn’t even use it at the time.
I found this repo linked: https://github.com/magiblot/tvision https://github.com/magiblot/tvision
- danparsonson 10mo agoYeah what a joyful blast from the past! I love that whole aesthetic; the best of the DOS days IMO.
- badsectoracula 10mo agoFWIW Free Vision that comes with Free Pascal is also updated and is also based on the original Turbo Vision that Borland released under public domain back in the 90s. Free Vision is used for the text-mode IDE that comes with Free Pascal and is ported to almost much every supported platform.
- fuzztester 10mo agoAnd the Free Pascal TUI IDE is lightning fast.
- michaelsbradley 10mo agoAlso check out Final Cut https://github.com/gansm/finalcut https://github.com/gansm/finalcut > FINAL CUT is a powerful and lightweight C++ library for creating terminal-based applications with numerous text-based widgets.
- Squarex 10mo agoit's cool, but the name sucks when there is final cut pro
- michaelsbradley 10mo agoWell, as the author says in the FAQ, he's been using the name Final Cut since 1991, whereas the famous video editing software appeared in 1999. Now, given how well-known the latter became, a name change would certainly be reasonable if he wanted to avoid confusion, improve find-ability in web search, etc. But, I get the impression that's not among his priorities, and it's his project, so...
- mixmastamyk 10mo agoWow, even better looking than TV, using the full power of Unicode and a custom font. Always new it was possible but haven’t seen it done yet. Reminds me a bit of the later versions of the old Norton DOS utils.
- mixmastamyk 10mo ago^knew
- actionfromafar 10mo agoTerminal.GUI v2 is very promising and a delight. But documentation was not 100% there last I used it this summer. There was always this nagging doubt - is it buggy or don't I understand how to use it? In the end, I finished my little internal tool and was happy with it. Would try again.
- vintagedave 10mo agoI had exactly the same problem. I ended up getting a copy of its source and pointing Claude at it, which insisted there were bugs - but, its fixes were not reliable, and I wasn't even sure if its assessments were correct, or the docs were wrong or out of date, or I was simply misusing it and misleading the AI through those expectations. The docs point so strongly at using v2 instead of v1, but I just don't get the sense it's reliable, and I feel 'stuck' for a good Terminal UI library for .Net now.
- actionfromafar 10mo agoI don't think there is a perfect fit, unfortunately. The best one can do is probably call out to one of the native code libraries, but that has an impractical distribution story in .Net for many use cases.
- esafak 10mo agoThe best of DOS, such as it was.