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I’d also point out in the same observation that they knew better than to try this in Europe and that their strategy of trying to hold large tech companies accou
by mdhb 10mo ago
I’d also point out in the same observation that they knew better than to try this in Europe and that their strategy of trying to hold large tech companies accountable seems to be working (with the minor caveat that it’s now official US defence policy to try and break up the European Union and US trade policy is extremely focused on the idea that nobody is ever allowed to fine a US company for breaking the law)
- jacquesm 10mo agoI am morbidly curious about how far the attempt to destroy the USA will be allowed to proceed before even the Republican party has decided that it is probably enough. So far they have exceeded my wildest (and worst) expectations. Unfortunately I can't get myself and those I care about off this planet (no, thank you, Elon) and we all will most likely lose a lot, possibly life and limb on account of this.
- Bombthecat 10mo agoIsn't the plan of project 2025 to collapse the USA into smaller states?
- jacquesm 10mo agoI don't know what the 'plan' is anymore other than that it seems to entail destabilization and destruction of the most powerful nation on the earth into a bit player making this every two bit dictator's wet dream. There is no way this ends well if it is not arrested.
- niels8472 10mo agoIf you assume the primary goal is self enrichment and the rest is just side effects and distractions, things immediately start making more sense.
- johnnyanmac 10mo agoYes, but then we have the blanket tarriffs. Which it seems even the most diehard are coming around to say was really, really stupid. Who's genuinely making a profit off this decision? That definitely tells me there's ego at play here more than anything else. Even money. That's the unheard of part of this year. Even the most blatantly corrupt politicians know not to actively throw money into a furnace.
- Bombthecat 10mo agoThey shorted the market and trump told people before he announced it. He even bragged about it: this guy made millions the last few days
- conradfr 10mo agoWhat is the benefit? Separate from the "Democrat states"? But aren't they the richest?
- jacquesm 10mo agoI think the theory is something like 'ok, the bucket will be smaller but we're the same so effectively we will grow' where 'we' is the wealthy assholes that power this movement. The fact that a couple of million (billion?) people could die as a result of their landgrab is none of their concern. The billionaire class appears to be divorced from reality to a very dangerous degree, and there are enough useful idiots willing to hand them their support to make this a very dangerous time. I don't think we've ever been closer to potentially losing it all than we are right now. You're looking at 'divide and conquer' on a scale that we have never seen before and there are enough dominoes falling already that I don't even know if it still can be arrested.
- scns 10mo agoA disregard for other people seems to be a prerequisite to becoming that wealthy for me. Hope i'm wrong, guess the good ones don't make the news. Surely they must exist
- saubeidl 10mo agoI think if you cared even a little bit about other people, you'd realize that after say, ten million, your life is gonna be pretty damn sweet already and you'd try to help other people with your money instead of buying yachts. To become a billionaire requires sociopathic disregard for the suffering of others and a pathological need for more. There's no such thing as a good billionaire.
- jacquesm 10mo ago> you'd realize that after say, ten million If you don't realize it by two you never will. Really, this is completely out of proportion by now, Marie Antoinette was a pauper by the standards these people live by.
- saubeidl 10mo agoRemember how the collapse of the soviet union created the oligarch class of incredibly rich untouchables? American billionaires sure do.
- jacquesm 10mo agoPrecisely. These cats fancy themselves the kings of the new world order, and if nobody stops them they'll pull it off too. But their plan appears to be quite messy and harder to execute on than they thought so all we have so far is a lot of destruction with not much to show for it. Even the White House looks like a demolition site and not a peep about it. I believe that if any past president had so much as suggested this rather than executed on it they'd have been impeached instantly.
- dragonwriter 10mo agoNo, project 2025 is very much about centralizing federal power, securing and further entrenching Republican partisan power, and dismantling and/or restructuring federal institutions that are perceived as being particularly useful in implementing priorities the Right does not share so thar even should the attempt to enteench Republican institutional advantage not secure a permanent majority, the federal government will have been selectively institutionally crippled so that gearing up to do things Republicans would prefer not be done will take longer than it takes to bring Republicans back into power to stop it. Its very much about centralizing power while very carefully restructuring capacities, not decentralizing power.
- AnthonyMouse 10mo agoMaybe the other party should do the other thing then? Actually decentralize things and reduce federal power in ways that stick between administrations. Then the next Trump wouldn't have the power to do things like this, and meanwhile California and other states could be setting their own emissions standards or imposing network neutrality or antitrust rules etc. without federal interference.
- BrenBarn 10mo agoNo, I think the better idea is, if the Democrats get power, pack the union, remove the pardon power, and basically send everyone associated with either Trump administration to jail for life (including all House/Senate members who voted against impeachment). It might be necessary to execute some for treason. I don't see any way back to sanity without a Nuremberg-style process in which "conservatism" as we know it is gouged out of the political arena.
- AnthonyMouse 10mo agoThis is the exact attitude that got Trump back in office. Keep everything hyper-partisan and every election is flipping a coin to see who got 1% more votes this time, with everyone feeling like if they lose the other side is going to damage them on purpose because that's literally what they're saying they want to do. Instead you need to get some adults back in the room and start doing things like prosecuting government officials for corruption regardless of which party they're in, passing the laws that lower the cost of living even over the opposition of the people getting paid the higher costs, and actually enforcing antitrust laws instead of both parties using them as a cudgel to get tech and media corporations to bend the knee politically in exchange for not enforcing them.
- drstewart 10mo agoThe plan of project 2025 is now apparently whatever you dream it to be whenever you want to rant wildly about it on the internet Don't bother looking it up on the wildly published document though. Just "ask questions" Isn't the EU's plan to make everyone pod people and use them for energy, like the Matrix? Potentially.
- dangus 10mo agoThe US’ current desire to break up the EU is not because of EU regulations, it’s because the US president is a convicted felon who has been a Russian mob asset promoting Putin’s talking points for decades. He's also a by-the-dictionary-definition fascist authoritarian including the part where corporations are untouchable and above the law, so long as they pay to play with his new mafia government modeled directly on Russia.
- renewiltord 10mo agoAnother reason they could be attacking NATO allies on this front is that the UK has been acting against Bully XL dogs. They’re scared that these dog regulations will spread and so Trump must be surely considering exiting NATO over this. Couldn’t be anything else to be honest.