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Silicon Valley was never liberal. It was always pro libertarian, wrapped in some kind of social progress branding. What changed is that the mask slipped... The

• OGEnthusiast 10mo ago
  > The same people, who preached openness and democracy, now pivot overnight to nationalism Nationalism isn't necessarily incompatible with open democracies. People in a democracy can vote for nationalistic policies without there being any contradiction.
• goatlover 10mo ago
  Problem is they help get people elected who enable if not outright embrace these sorts of ideas.
• andsoitis 10mo ago
  > nationalism Nationalism isn’t inherently immoral. Nationalism is the belief that people with a shared history, culture, language, or identity, ought to have political self-determination and a special loyalty to their own nation. Where nationalism can go wrong is when it becomes exclusionary (eg defines nation as ethnic, racial, or religious), when it claims moral superiority, suppresses internal dissent, escalates into zero-sum thinking (success defined in terms of other nations losing).
  • archagon 10mo ago
    In my experience, even the benign kind of nationalism inevitably metastasizes.
  • insane_dreamer 10mo ago
    it's not inherently immoral but it's inherently dangerous because it can be so easily weaponized almost all wars are fueled by nationalism
    • andsoitis 10mo ago
      > almost all wars are fueled by nationalism Many wars, especially modern ones, are fueled in part by nationalism, but almost none are caused by nationalism alone or mostly caused by nationalism alone. Instead, they're driven primarily by other factos: power & security, economic interests, religion or ideology, contorl and authority. Nationalism is often a tool rather than the root cause.
      • insane_dreamer 10mo ago
        I didn't say "caused". I said "fueled".