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If they think capitalism is bad for Americans, they’d really dislike being part of some failed state version of the country. Again, China isn’t going to come re

by xp84 11mo ago

If they think capitalism is bad for Americans, they’d really dislike being part of some failed state version of the country. Again, China isn’t going to come redistribute all the billionaires’ wealth to the poor American zoomers. They don’t give a fk what happens to any Americans. They barely care about their own commoners. They represent the Party’s interests exclusively. Whatever enhances their power. Ideally if they can screw the US billionaires they will, but with the wealth all going to China.

johnnyanmac 11mo ago
Replace China with Trump you have the talking points of 2024. Still took a year of rampant incompetence and corruption to convince Gen Z otherwise. China's soft rule will not be as incompetent.
nebula8804 11mo ago
Here are the scenarios that are playing out 1. China overtakes the US -> US society directly decines and thats it. (Your scenario) 2. China overtakes the US -> It takes out the elites with everyone else (what Gen-Z likely wants to see) 3. US manages to hold on -> Elites continue their trajectory of snapping everything up leaving the crumbs for everyone else. (The best case scenario pro-US people can hope for right now) 4. US manages to hold on -> They somehow decide to reform and implement v2.0 of New Deal. (The dream of the bernie sanders wing ie. a pipedream at this point) You are really showing your age with your attitude. Put yourself in Gen-Z's shoes. What is realistic at this point? What can even millenials hope for? The best case is that they end up being a transitional generation that helps their kids survive their childhood and grow into a decent adult life. The worse case is managed decline. Either way Gen Y and Gen Z are done for. This amazing American system you defend has ruined these generations long term outlooks and Trump's bumbling has already written their final chapters.
array_key_first 11mo ago
The main difference is that at least the CCP is economically competent. Our current republican overlords are also fucking us over and they're economically dumb as rocks.
- xp84 11mo ago
  They certainly cause economic damage with their stupid and/or corrupt takes on tariffs, mainly. But the other party wants to elect clowns like Mamdani who would crash everything.
birksherty 11mo ago
You're being partly branwashed by american rich media. It's not about disliking capitalism. It's crony billionaires running the country and destroying it. China has pulled many poor people or of poverty. Generations. You don't see this in media. You're comment is just misinformed and wrong.
- Sammi 11mo ago
  A country building out its export industry means more people get jobs and out of poverty. Chinese leaders didn't do it for the benefit of their people. They only do anything in order to stay in power inside of the party so they can be rich. That's how the Chinese political system works. Please stop it with the Chinese leaders are benevolent narrative. It's clearly bunk.
  - nisesen 11mo ago
    You speak as if you know this to be true. What’s your evidence? Vibes? Be honest

by xp84 11mo ago

johnnyanmac 11mo ago

Replace China with Trump you have the talking points of 2024. Still took a year of rampant incompetence and corruption to convince Gen Z otherwise. China's soft rule will not be as incompetent.

nebula8804 11mo ago

Here are the scenarios that are playing out 1. China overtakes the US -> US society directly decines and thats it. (Your scenario) 2. China overtakes the US -> It takes out the elites with everyone else (what Gen-Z likely wants to see) 3. US manages to hold on -> Elites continue their trajectory of snapping everything up leaving the crumbs for everyone else. (The best case scenario pro-US people can hope for right now) 4. US manages to hold on -> They somehow decide to reform and implement v2.0 of New Deal. (The dream of the bernie sanders wing ie. a pipedream at this point) You are really showing your age with your attitude. Put yourself in Gen-Z's shoes. What is realistic at this point? What can even millenials hope for? The best case is that they end up being a transitional generation that helps their kids survive their childhood and grow into a decent adult life. The worse case is managed decline. Either way Gen Y and Gen Z are done for. This amazing American system you defend has ruined these generations long term outlooks and Trump's bumbling has already written their final chapters.

array_key_first 11mo ago

The main difference is that at least the CCP is economically competent. Our current republican overlords are also fucking us over and they're economically dumb as rocks.

xp84 11mo ago
They certainly cause economic damage with their stupid and/or corrupt takes on tariffs, mainly. But the other party wants to elect clowns like Mamdani who would crash everything.

birksherty 11mo ago

You're being partly branwashed by american rich media. It's not about disliking capitalism. It's crony billionaires running the country and destroying it. China has pulled many poor people or of poverty. Generations. You don't see this in media. You're comment is just misinformed and wrong.

Sammi 11mo ago
A country building out its export industry means more people get jobs and out of poverty. Chinese leaders didn't do it for the benefit of their people. They only do anything in order to stay in power inside of the party so they can be rich. That's how the Chinese political system works. Please stop it with the Chinese leaders are benevolent narrative. It's clearly bunk.
- nisesen 11mo ago
  You speak as if you know this to be true. What’s your evidence? Vibes? Be honest