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>> biggest asshole ever elected to office I do agree and more was just trying to moderate my comments.

by roamerz 10mo ago

lovich 10mo ago
You didn’t moderate your comments by painting him as the opposite of what he is. That is called lying
dpark 10mo ago
I don’t know how to connect constructively with people who have this viewpoint. Like, no matter how terrible Trump is as a human being, it’s okay because supposedly some of his policies will eventually pay off. “Look, I know he’s an utter piece of shit who is a known con artist and surrounds himself with sycophants and his policies are demonstrably failing to achieve anything that he claimed, but like, he’s cracking down on immigration and that seems worth unraveling democracy.”
- roamerz 10mo ago
  >>I don’t know how to connect constructively Yeah we probably never will. The part of him that everyone hates is creating a division in the nation. On the flip side I disagree so much with what the Biden administration did I am willing to accept his faults and will bide my time until Vance and Rubio take office when hopefully the hate will subside and we can start to come together as a country.
  - dpark 10mo ago
    The part of him that I hate most is that he’s exposing a huge chunk of the country as being willing to continue to support a man who very clearly cares nothing about democracy or the country except to the extent that it lines his pockets. > hopefully the hate will subside and we can start to come together as a country Trump got elected on a platform of divisiveness and hate and he’s continued that playbook since. You can’t support him and then seriously say you want the country to come back together.
    - mothballed 10mo ago
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      - dpark 10mo ago
        I wish all of Trump’s most fervent supporters would be as bravely open about their support for dictatorship as you.
        mothballed 10mo ago
        Honestly most dictatorships are less effective at crushing the freedom and spirit of the populace as democracies are. If you go someplace like Myanmar or DRC, the response to the whims of a dictator are something like "you and what army." Most of their populace doesn't even listen to what the dictator says, nor pay taxes or any of the like. Democracy scams the populace into thinking the government is actually 'them' which disarms them into subservience. Occasionally you do find a dictatorship that can run with an iron fist and actually subject the majority of the population. A couple of divergent examples are UAE/Dubai -- which ranks higher in economic freedom than the US. On the other hand you have places like DPRK which are just an absolute shithole all around. Depending on where you're at democracy definitely functions worse, than say a kritarchy (ex: Somalia, which was more prosperous and peaceful and better respect for individual rights under decentralized 'xeer' law than under any democratic government.)
      - tastyface 10mo ago
        Not sure if trolling or actual fascist. Anyway, if you think people are going to give up their rights without any pushback, you’re in for a really scary decade. 37% will not be able to rule by fiat over the remainder without, essentially, civil war.
        dpark 10mo ago
        I fear we may all be in for a really scary decade.

>> biggest asshole ever elected to office I do agree and more was just trying to moderate my comments.

by roamerz 10mo ago

>> biggest asshole ever elected to office I do agree and more was just trying to moderate my comments.

lovich 10mo ago

You didn’t moderate your comments by painting him as the opposite of what he is. That is called lying

dpark 10mo ago

I don’t know how to connect constructively with people who have this viewpoint. Like, no matter how terrible Trump is as a human being, it’s okay because supposedly some of his policies will eventually pay off. “Look, I know he’s an utter piece of shit who is a known con artist and surrounds himself with sycophants and his policies are demonstrably failing to achieve anything that he claimed, but like, he’s cracking down on immigration and that seems worth unraveling democracy.”

roamerz 10mo ago
>>I don’t know how to connect constructively Yeah we probably never will. The part of him that everyone hates is creating a division in the nation. On the flip side I disagree so much with what the Biden administration did I am willing to accept his faults and will bide my time until Vance and Rubio take office when hopefully the hate will subside and we can start to come together as a country.
- dpark 10mo ago
  The part of him that I hate most is that he’s exposing a huge chunk of the country as being willing to continue to support a man who very clearly cares nothing about democracy or the country except to the extent that it lines his pockets. > hopefully the hate will subside and we can start to come together as a country Trump got elected on a platform of divisiveness and hate and he’s continued that playbook since. You can’t support him and then seriously say you want the country to come back together.
  - mothballed 10mo ago
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    - dpark 10mo ago
      I wish all of Trump’s most fervent supporters would be as bravely open about their support for dictatorship as you.
      - mothballed 10mo ago
        Honestly most dictatorships are less effective at crushing the freedom and spirit of the populace as democracies are. If you go someplace like Myanmar or DRC, the response to the whims of a dictator are something like "you and what army." Most of their populace doesn't even listen to what the dictator says, nor pay taxes or any of the like. Democracy scams the populace into thinking the government is actually 'them' which disarms them into subservience. Occasionally you do find a dictatorship that can run with an iron fist and actually subject the majority of the population. A couple of divergent examples are UAE/Dubai -- which ranks higher in economic freedom than the US. On the other hand you have places like DPRK which are just an absolute shithole all around. Depending on where you're at democracy definitely functions worse, than say a kritarchy (ex: Somalia, which was more prosperous and peaceful and better respect for individual rights under decentralized 'xeer' law than under any democratic government.)
    - tastyface 10mo ago
      Not sure if trolling or actual fascist. Anyway, if you think people are going to give up their rights without any pushback, you’re in for a really scary decade. 37% will not be able to rule by fiat over the remainder without, essentially, civil war.
      - dpark 10mo ago
        I fear we may all be in for a really scary decade.