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> To make the distinction more clear; if the carpenters goal is to produce chairs they may be inclined to use power tools, if their goal is to work with wood th

> To make the distinction more clear; if the carpenters goal is to produce chairs they may be inclined to use power tools, if their goal is to work with wood then they might not want to use power tools. I'd say it's closer to carpenters using CNC machines. You can be a "successful" carpenter that sells tons of wood projects built entirely using a CNC and not even know how to hold a chisel. But nobody is going to call you a good woodworker. You're just a successful businessman. For sure, there's gradients, where people use it for the hard parts and manually do what they can. I.e., CNC templates and use those as router guides on their work. People will be impressed by your builds, but Paul Sellers is still going to be more considered more talented.

FloorEgg 10mo ago
From my thousands of hours working with LLMs since GPT-3, I strongly disagree. In the media AI hype perspective your CNC analogy sounds right. In my -grounded in real experience using it- perspective the power tool analogy is far more apt. If you treat agentic IDE like CNC machine that's how you get problems. Consider the population of opinions. One other reply to my comment is about how the LLM introduced security flaw and repeated line after line of the same code, implying it's useless and can't be trusted. Now you're replying that the LLMs are more capable and autonomous they can be trusted with full automation to the extent of CNC. My point is that the truth lies somewhere in between. Maybe in the future your CNC analogy would be valid but right now with windsurf/cursor and Opus 4.5 we aren't there yet. Lastly, even with your analogy setting up and using CNC is a skill. It's an engineering and design skill. So maybe the person doing that would be more of an engineer than a woodworker, but going as far as calling them a business person isn't accurate to me.

FloorEgg 10mo ago

From my thousands of hours working with LLMs since GPT-3, I strongly disagree. In the media AI hype perspective your CNC analogy sounds right. In my -grounded in real experience using it- perspective the power tool analogy is far more apt. If you treat agentic IDE like CNC machine that's how you get problems. Consider the population of opinions. One other reply to my comment is about how the LLM introduced security flaw and repeated line after line of the same code, implying it's useless and can't be trusted. Now you're replying that the LLMs are more capable and autonomous they can be trusted with full automation to the extent of CNC. My point is that the truth lies somewhere in between. Maybe in the future your CNC analogy would be valid but right now with windsurf/cursor and Opus 4.5 we aren't there yet. Lastly, even with your analogy setting up and using CNC is a skill. It's an engineering and design skill. So maybe the person doing that would be more of an engineer than a woodworker, but going as far as calling them a business person isn't accurate to me.