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>Genuine monarchists are pretty rare in America. That was true once. Today Yarvin is massively influential. (I'm not explaining it, just reporting it.)

by nyeah 10mo ago

mikkupikku 10mo ago
I think you're massively overselling "Moldbug"'s influence. Most on the right today dismiss him for being jewish. Older right-leaning people are mostly stuck on the Facebook/Fox News reservation and don't read essays or blogs, ever, and probably aren't even literate enough to understand Yarvin let alone get talking into monarchism by him. I will grant that he has influence, but definitely not "massive". Maybe he has traction with tech business elite as some say, I don't have a read on the pulse of that ultra-niche demographic.
- estearum 10mo ago
  “He has no influence… except perhaps among a small group of the most ideologically extreme, politically active, industrially dominant, and financially resourced people on the planet” No one thinks Yarvin is popular. They think (know) he’s influential among the very specific small group that you disclaim any knowledge of.
  - mikkupikku 10mo ago
    I said monarchists are rare. I maintain that they are, even if rich people rank among their numbers. About the only people from whom you could expect an affinity for monarchism, in America, are rich people who consider themselves aristocrats already (who although powerful, are very few in number) and weird greasy kids in highschools. Incidentally, I did stumble across the existence of a group of genuine monarchists in America a few years back. They're a sort of Catholic... [Association? Cult let's say] who think the French revolution is the root of all modern evil and instead all government should be subservient to the Catholic church. But their group dates back to some guy in Brazil in the 20th century. These guys are genuine though, not internet larpers or people being edgy for lulz. They're also very obscure and extremely fringe. Almost like the Catholic version of the Westboro Baptist people.
    - estearum 10mo ago
      Eh, I've met at least one "monarchist" (blurry boundary between that and fascist, per his own words) who doesn't fit that description at all. There are people out there who just want to be dom'd by some old man in DC. And yes, you did say they are rare. Then you said they're not influential while carving out the one major source of alleged influence. I don't take any issue with the rarity claim, but it's at this point dangerously naive to act like Yarvin's incredibly unimpressive and juvenile ideas aren't literally shaping our daily lives as we speak.
- goatlover 10mo ago
  Having influence over tech billionaires running some of the most influential companies in the world seems like a lot of influence.
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- myvoiceismypass 10mo ago
  > Most on the right today "Most" on the right will play dumb when you bring up Project 2025 too, which he architected, and which is getting played out in front of our very own eyes, day in and day out.

>Genuine monarchists are pretty rare in America. That was true once. Today Yarvin is massively influential. (I'm not explaining it, just reporting it.)

by nyeah 10mo ago

>Genuine monarchists are pretty rare in America. That was true once. Today Yarvin is massively influential. (I'm not explaining it, just reporting it.)

mikkupikku 10mo ago

I think you're massively overselling "Moldbug"'s influence. Most on the right today dismiss him for being jewish. Older right-leaning people are mostly stuck on the Facebook/Fox News reservation and don't read essays or blogs, ever, and probably aren't even literate enough to understand Yarvin let alone get talking into monarchism by him. I will grant that he has influence, but definitely not "massive". Maybe he has traction with tech business elite as some say, I don't have a read on the pulse of that ultra-niche demographic.

estearum 10mo ago
“He has no influence… except perhaps among a small group of the most ideologically extreme, politically active, industrially dominant, and financially resourced people on the planet” No one thinks Yarvin is popular. They think (know) he’s influential among the very specific small group that you disclaim any knowledge of.
- mikkupikku 10mo ago
  I said monarchists are rare. I maintain that they are, even if rich people rank among their numbers. About the only people from whom you could expect an affinity for monarchism, in America, are rich people who consider themselves aristocrats already (who although powerful, are very few in number) and weird greasy kids in highschools. Incidentally, I did stumble across the existence of a group of genuine monarchists in America a few years back. They're a sort of Catholic... [Association? Cult let's say] who think the French revolution is the root of all modern evil and instead all government should be subservient to the Catholic church. But their group dates back to some guy in Brazil in the 20th century. These guys are genuine though, not internet larpers or people being edgy for lulz. They're also very obscure and extremely fringe. Almost like the Catholic version of the Westboro Baptist people.
  - estearum 10mo ago
    Eh, I've met at least one "monarchist" (blurry boundary between that and fascist, per his own words) who doesn't fit that description at all. There are people out there who just want to be dom'd by some old man in DC. And yes, you did say they are rare. Then you said they're not influential while carving out the one major source of alleged influence. I don't take any issue with the rarity claim, but it's at this point dangerously naive to act like Yarvin's incredibly unimpressive and juvenile ideas aren't literally shaping our daily lives as we speak.
goatlover 10mo ago
Having influence over tech billionaires running some of the most influential companies in the world seems like a lot of influence.
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myvoiceismypass 10mo ago
> Most on the right today "Most" on the right will play dumb when you bring up Project 2025 too, which he architected, and which is getting played out in front of our very own eyes, day in and day out.