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> DDR6 will double the memory bandwidth over DDR5 Considering PC desktops. DDR4 is 3200 MT/s max JEDEC. DDR5 is available on AMD since 3 years and is 5600. DDR

by kvemkon 10mo ago

> DDR6 will double the memory bandwidth over DDR5 Considering PC desktops. DDR4 is 3200 MT/s max JEDEC. DDR5 is available on AMD since 3 years and is 5600. DDR6 specification is almost finished. It looks like DDR5 will double performance just right before new DDR6 DIMMs appear. Thus I'd expect DDR6 to double the bandwidth just as late when the new memory standard arrives.

yetihehe 10mo ago
> DDR5 is available on AMD since 3 years and is 5600 Strange, I bought 64GB DDR5 6400MHz last year and apparently my motherboard can handle up to 7200MHz (or more with overclocking).
- kvemkon 10mo ago
  Though clarified at the start about Desktop, but missed JEDEC applying, of course, generally for the whole post.
- wtallis 10mo ago
  AMD's CPUs don't support more than 5600 MT/s without overclocking; they're still using the same IO die from Zen 4, so their memory controller is pretty outdated. Zen 6 should introduce a new IO die with a better memory controller, but for now 6000 MT/s is the fastest reasonable memory overclock for AMD desktops. Intel's desktop CPUs from last year support up to 5600 MT/s with regular DDR5 DIMMs, or 6400 MT/s for CUDIMMs. Speeds higher than this are achievable, but are overclocking. If your memory modules are rated for 6400 MT/s, they are most likely advertising the speed when using an Intel XMP or AMD EXPO profile to overclock the memory (and the CPU's memory controller). The JEDEC standard profile likely is no faster than 5600 MT/s. It's also possible that you bought last year a kit of CUDIMMs rated for 6400 MT/s without overclocking, brand new to the market at that time, and of no help whatsoever with any CPU that isn't an Intel Arrow Lake.
  - yetihehe 10mo ago
    Now that you say that, I checked in bios and looks like you're right. I have 4 sticks of "DDR5-4800-16GB @6400MHz". It was probably marketing speed, but works stable and memtest didn't find any errors.

by kvemkon 10mo ago

yetihehe 10mo ago

> DDR5 is available on AMD since 3 years and is 5600 Strange, I bought 64GB DDR5 6400MHz last year and apparently my motherboard can handle up to 7200MHz (or more with overclocking).

kvemkon 10mo ago
Though clarified at the start about Desktop, but missed JEDEC applying, of course, generally for the whole post.
wtallis 10mo ago
AMD's CPUs don't support more than 5600 MT/s without overclocking; they're still using the same IO die from Zen 4, so their memory controller is pretty outdated. Zen 6 should introduce a new IO die with a better memory controller, but for now 6000 MT/s is the fastest reasonable memory overclock for AMD desktops. Intel's desktop CPUs from last year support up to 5600 MT/s with regular DDR5 DIMMs, or 6400 MT/s for CUDIMMs. Speeds higher than this are achievable, but are overclocking. If your memory modules are rated for 6400 MT/s, they are most likely advertising the speed when using an Intel XMP or AMD EXPO profile to overclock the memory (and the CPU's memory controller). The JEDEC standard profile likely is no faster than 5600 MT/s. It's also possible that you bought last year a kit of CUDIMMs rated for 6400 MT/s without overclocking, brand new to the market at that time, and of no help whatsoever with any CPU that isn't an Intel Arrow Lake.
- yetihehe 10mo ago
  Now that you say that, I checked in bios and looks like you're right. I have 4 sticks of "DDR5-4800-16GB @6400MHz". It was probably marketing speed, but works stable and memtest didn't find any errors.