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Tesla is the least bad here according to Mozilla

zie 11mo ago
Mostly only because Tesla doesn't share this data outside of Tesla, unless they leak it to news outlets to make it look like the accident was all your fault and not Tesla's.
- consp 11mo ago
  Isn't that the definition of slander? Which is illegal in most places.
  - zie 11mo ago
    Maybe? But good luck proving it. Tesla tends to only leak that stuff when they look bad. It's not like they are necessarily outright lying, they are just telling their version of the truth.... For the record, I'm not condoning this behaviour.
    - dzhiurgis 11mo ago
      Source? Post crash videos (IIRC published once to defend slander) extracted from black box isn’t the same as your claim.
aDyslecticCrow 11mo ago
I point out tesla specifically because they had headlines about sharing camera feeds as memes. The Mozilla report clearly shows tesla is not an outlier, more like "middle of the pack".
- dzhiurgis 11mo ago
  Source for your lies?
  - DrewADesign 11mo ago
    They're probably referring to this 2023 Reuters article. https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-workers-shared-sensitive-images-recorded-by-customer-cars-2023-04-06/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-workers-shared-sens... "...pictures of dogs and funny road signs that employees made into memes by embellishing them with amusing captions or commentary, before posting them in private group chats. While some postings were only shared between two employees, others could be seen by scores of them, according to several ex-employees." Two-second Google search. It's not very charitable to accuse someone of lying without even looking. It's even mentioned in that mozilla breakdown.
    - dzhiurgis 11mo ago
      The way op worded seems they shared it publicly. You say they internally shared pics of dogs and signs..? Are you serious?
      - DrewADesign 10mo ago
        > I point out tesla specifically because they had headlines about sharing camera feeds as memes. Your baseless assumptions are your own fault. I gave citations for your specific questions. There’s multiple articles about the odious things that happened that you clearly have no interest in acknowledging. I’m not your research assistant. Go read them. You’re clearly more interested in defending Tesla than understanding people’s complaints. Cope? Shill? I’ll never know, and I’ll definitely never care.
        dzhiurgis 10mo ago
        Gotcha bitch. Account created 2022. Comments heavy in em dashes. Who you botting for?
        DrewADesign 10mo ago
        lol, cringe. Great way to protect your ego when someone is serially pointing out how baseless your glib snapbacks are. I use em dashes because I learned to write at a competent university, instead of, say, Breaking Bad. In fact, it played a large role in early LLM development, so if they ever used student writing in their data sets, I might be a tiny part of the reason these models use so many em dashed to begin with. Hell, I don’t even use grammarly anymore. And I made this alt when I switched from dev to design, before the shitty job market switched me from design to manufacturing. And exactly who would I be “botting for?” The only person in this thread that started championing a particular company is you. The thread itself started with me bemoaning data collection among the auto industry, and mentioned that Tesla is the least bad at even if they’re still bad. So… am I botting for “big bicycle?” Part of the large Schwinn-backed anti-car virtual astroturfing brigade? Maybe an extremely aggressive public transit advocacy group? Exactly who cares enough about people stanning Tesla to point some robot propaganda machination at it? And since you were enough of a creep to go through my comment history looking for excuses to ignore what I was saying rather than actually engage with it, did you see ANY other indication that was a theme? Lol. So keep trying to scrounge up some cope, “bitch.”
a456463 11mo ago
Tesla is not the least bad. Do you have that footage sitting in your car SD card or in cloud without access? Tesla is middle, if not worse
- dzhiurgis 11mo ago
  Argue with Mozilla on this. It's their list.

zie 11mo ago

Mostly only because Tesla doesn't share this data outside of Tesla, unless they leak it to news outlets to make it look like the accident was all your fault and not Tesla's.

consp 11mo ago
Isn't that the definition of slander? Which is illegal in most places.
- zie 11mo ago
  Maybe? But good luck proving it. Tesla tends to only leak that stuff when they look bad. It's not like they are necessarily outright lying, they are just telling their version of the truth.... For the record, I'm not condoning this behaviour.
  - dzhiurgis 11mo ago
    Source? Post crash videos (IIRC published once to defend slander) extracted from black box isn’t the same as your claim.

aDyslecticCrow 11mo ago

I point out tesla specifically because they had headlines about sharing camera feeds as memes. The Mozilla report clearly shows tesla is not an outlier, more like "middle of the pack".

dzhiurgis 11mo ago
Source for your lies?
- DrewADesign 11mo ago
  They're probably referring to this 2023 Reuters article. https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-workers-shared-sensitive-images-recorded-by-customer-cars-2023-04-06/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-workers-shared-sens... "...pictures of dogs and funny road signs that employees made into memes by embellishing them with amusing captions or commentary, before posting them in private group chats. While some postings were only shared between two employees, others could be seen by scores of them, according to several ex-employees." Two-second Google search. It's not very charitable to accuse someone of lying without even looking. It's even mentioned in that mozilla breakdown.
  - dzhiurgis 11mo ago
    The way op worded seems they shared it publicly. You say they internally shared pics of dogs and signs..? Are you serious?
    - DrewADesign 10mo ago
      > I point out tesla specifically because they had headlines about sharing camera feeds as memes. Your baseless assumptions are your own fault. I gave citations for your specific questions. There’s multiple articles about the odious things that happened that you clearly have no interest in acknowledging. I’m not your research assistant. Go read them. You’re clearly more interested in defending Tesla than understanding people’s complaints. Cope? Shill? I’ll never know, and I’ll definitely never care.
      - dzhiurgis 10mo ago
        Gotcha bitch. Account created 2022. Comments heavy in em dashes. Who you botting for?
        DrewADesign 10mo ago
        lol, cringe. Great way to protect your ego when someone is serially pointing out how baseless your glib snapbacks are. I use em dashes because I learned to write at a competent university, instead of, say, Breaking Bad. In fact, it played a large role in early LLM development, so if they ever used student writing in their data sets, I might be a tiny part of the reason these models use so many em dashed to begin with. Hell, I don’t even use grammarly anymore. And I made this alt when I switched from dev to design, before the shitty job market switched me from design to manufacturing. And exactly who would I be “botting for?” The only person in this thread that started championing a particular company is you. The thread itself started with me bemoaning data collection among the auto industry, and mentioned that Tesla is the least bad at even if they’re still bad. So… am I botting for “big bicycle?” Part of the large Schwinn-backed anti-car virtual astroturfing brigade? Maybe an extremely aggressive public transit advocacy group? Exactly who cares enough about people stanning Tesla to point some robot propaganda machination at it? And since you were enough of a creep to go through my comment history looking for excuses to ignore what I was saying rather than actually engage with it, did you see ANY other indication that was a theme? Lol. So keep trying to scrounge up some cope, “bitch.”

a456463 11mo ago

Tesla is not the least bad. Do you have that footage sitting in your car SD card or in cloud without access? Tesla is middle, if not worse

dzhiurgis 11mo ago
Argue with Mozilla on this. It's their list.