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Firefox 16 live: Here's What's New

72 points by lforrest 14y ago

AdamGibbins 14y ago
One of the primary reasons I switched to Chrome was due to the awesome syncing abilities with Android Chrome. Does anyone know if Firefox Mobile has matured to a point where it doesn't lag incredibly due to the huge memory footprint on Android?
- gkoberger 14y ago
  It has. They semi-recently switched from XUL to native Java, which has made it as fast (maybe faster?) compared to Chrome or Browser on Android. Definitely worth checking out again.
  - cgranade 14y ago
    My only real complaint with Firefox Mobile is that it doesn't play that well with Intent filters like the one the YouTube app uses to catch http://*.youtube.com/* http://*.youtube.com/* requests. That said, I'm not sure how to fix that without introducing the annoying per-link popup asking me if I want to use Chrome or Firefox.
MatthewPhillips 14y ago
So it adds Webapp support, but the Firefox Marketplace is not yet open to the public, is this correct?
- gkoberger 14y ago
  That is correct. The Firefox parts have to land before the Marketplace can open, otherwise the Marketplace is useless.
freehunter 14y ago
I wish they'd just bump the version number to 30 then save major revision numbers for major revisions. I don't see anything in here that would warrant anything but a bump from 15 to 15.5 under the old Firefox revision standards.
- Scene_Cast2 14y ago
  Yep, same feeling here. There seems to be a new trend of a shifted decimal point: "beta"-ish feel until version 10, and a .1 version bump is now a new release.
- deleted 14y ago
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- superxor 14y ago
  I think it's time to cut this 'version number' debate. Mozilla has been pretty clear about the plan to use such a system. The only problem was from enterprise users which Mozilla has addressed. The background auto-update is in the stable builds now, should be enough to keep FF updated. I am really tired of this versioning non-sense. Users complained, Mozilla addressed legitimate concerns. Now it's just a difference in perspective. Seems like the new system is actually helping Mozilla put out updates faster. Lets move on.
  - freehunter 14y ago
    I know they've been very open about why they're using major revision numbers for minor features. I don't like it when Chrome does it either. I just don't like the arms race that is developing to have the higher revision number. I just get a little disappointed when I see a new major number and the changelog is minor additions and bugfixes. Just because Mozilla has their reason for making the change doesn't mean everyone has to be happy about the change. I'm not complaining about Firefox, I'm complaining about the number, and the corruption of what that number is supposed to mean.
    - Steuard 14y ago
      I don't see this as an arms race at all. (Heck, it took a major outcry just to convince Mozilla to show the version number in a place where normal users could find it.) I agree that it's a redefinition of what "version number" means: now it's essentially date based, rather than feature based (though the two are obviously correlated). But I can't see any obvious reason to read "redefinition" as "corruption". It's just different, and both Mozilla and Google had sensible reasons for making that change. In fact, their decisions may make it worth questioning those assumptions more broadly. Is there a chance that your version numbering method is causing subtle problems for your own development process?
mbchandar 14y ago
i am worried. even though it touched 16, it still sucks most of my memory and slows down the system and drains the battery immediately (1 hour of power) Firefox still needs to improve its memory usage.
- abraham 14y ago
  Check what extensions you are using. Firefox by itself uses much less memory and is very fast now.
- mccr8 14y ago
  Can you be more specific about the kinds of problems you are seeing? Can you reproduce these problems in safe mode? You should file a bug at http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ and put [MemShrink] in the whiteboard.
- freehunter 14y ago
  I cleaned up a lot of my extensions, and the memory usage went way down. I still get leaks where having a dozen or so tabs open will, over time, use up much of my free memory. This happens in Chrome as well, so I just keep that in mind and occasionally restart the browser.
webwanderings 14y ago
After being a FF user for so many years (since at least there was no hype behind it among average users), I caved in to Chrome finally and completely. Moved my bookmarks (lost tagging), history and sync, all to Google.
- shardling 14y ago
  So, that's great for you and all, but what the fuck does it have to do with the article?
  - tadfisher 14y ago
    > Be civil. Don't say things you wouldn't say in a face to face conversation.
    - shardling 14y ago
      I would totally have said that face to face. :)
      - corin_ 14y ago
        I'm the same that I'd have no problem saying that sort of thing face to face, however this doesn't change the fact that what you said wasn't civil - the face to face part is an addition, not a definition of "civil".
  - webwanderings 14y ago
    I know one person's opinion doesn't matter, but I owe it as my duty to tell a parting friend that I am parting ways. Given that this friend has no interest in taking people's opinions (there is no official mechanism in place to take opinions), HN is as good as any other place to make statements. Now, why the "fuck" do you care if what I write here has anything to do with the article or not? Perhaps something is lurking behind the shadow you may want to look after?
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Ensorceled 14y ago
Is 16 worth installing? Firefox used to be my favourite browser, but I stopped using it when the almost daily install and "reload or disable" addons cycle became too painful.
- abraham 14y ago
  That cycle should be invisible now. It updates silently in the background and should only notify you if an extension gets disabled.
  - shardling 14y ago
    And unlike in previous eras of Firefox, extensions are not typically disabled by the version bump.
    - abraham 14y ago
      They should only get disabled if the use a feature that got removed.
- thwest 14y ago
  Yes. I switched to Chrome for a while because of performance, and for my use cases, they are back close enough to parity. I would also recommend Aurora, which gets newer features faster, but is much more stable than the nightly binaries.
Aardwolf 14y ago
Still not the feature I'd like in there: A way to open link here instead of in new tab or window
- sabret00the 14y ago
  Hasn't that been a feature from day one. Are you sure you haven't got the option ticked that forces links to open in external tabs/windows?
  - Aardwolf 14y ago
    If I right click on a link, I see options "Open link in new tab" and "Open link in new window". What's missing there is "Open link in this tab", to circumvent these pesky websites that configure every single link to open in a new tab/window.
    - freehunter 14y ago
      Ah yes, the case where the site forces a new tab. That would be a useful option.
    - Ironlink 14y ago
      Workaround: Drag the link to the address bar.
- shardling 14y ago
  Sounds like a trivial extension.
  - jamesbritt 14y ago
    I have a bookmarklet script that removes any "target" attributes on anchors, but it may be harder to circumvent "new window" URLs if they're initiated via scripting.
vnuk 14y ago
Why does Firefox's roadmap look like "copy everything that Chrome has"? If Firefox users needed (or wanted) marketplace for (web) apps (or any other Chrome feature) they'd already be using Chrome ...
- sabret00the 14y ago
  Web Apps are a very real part of the future of the web. The fact that this space exists in the first place whereby there was only desktop apps previously should be testament enough to that. I may not personally agree with Mozilla in regards to the role of web apps, but I think that we all agree, it's better to be in a position to allow users to make their own minds up rather than go off of what a few loud naysayers want.
  - vnuk 14y ago
    If Wev Apps are a very real part of the future of the web why isn't there a standard for that? Or in another words, if it is the future why haven't they all sat down and agreed upon a standard?? This way we'll be begging jQuery for Web Apps or some other abstraction layer that will do all the dirty work of cross browser compatibility... I don't see a standard for Web Apps on http://www1.webplatform.org/ http://www1.webplatform.org/ anywhere ...
    - sabret00the 14y ago
      Did you take the week off? http://www1.webplatform.org/ http://www1.webplatform.org/
      - vnuk 14y ago
        All I see there is another "dry as bone" index of all web technologies, like there aren't enough of those on the Internet already ...
    - dangoor 14y ago
      Most of Web Apps are already in the standard (appcache, indexeddb, etc.) and I know there has been some communication around manifest formats (but I'm not directly involved in that). Generally speaking, though, the difference between one definition of "web app" and another is very small, in terms of what the platform has to support. I'll also note the perspective that sometimes it takes a couple of implementations before the "right" solution is known. Many evolutions of the web standards have followed varying implementations being played with in the field.
SeanDav 14y ago
Still my favourite browser by far. I usually have 3-4 windows open and up to several hundred tabs and Firefox handles this better than anything else.
- darkstalker 14y ago
  With the "Tree Style Tab" extension you can manage tons of tabs in a comfortable and ordered way.
  - sabret00the 14y ago
    Hopefully someone will take on the enormous undertaking that will be fixing Panorama/Tab Candy to work properly. Where's Santa? That's all I want for Christmas.
- Achshar 14y ago
  I can't fathom a reason for "several hundred tabs" unless your job specifically requires you to open that number of tabs for some (albeit strange) reason.
  - msbarnett 14y ago
    Just hazarding a guess, but I've noticed that people who have $TEXAS tabs open tend to use tabs the way I use Instapaper -- as a means of tracking interesting content they want to remember to read at some point.
  - deltaqueue 14y ago
    I realize this is OT, but speaking as a tab hoarder, there's no justifiable reason for the behavior. And I'm not exaggerating when I use the term hoarder -- it's the same principle as hoarding physical goods, since the personal justification is always "they're important and I might need them someday". At any given moment I have 2 windows with about 30-40 tabs each. I even downloaded a chrome plugin called session buddy that lets me restore previous windows in the event of an accidental computer restart. The unfinished reading weighs me down every day, but I keep them open anyway. Some days I get productive and read a half dozen tabs, but never anything substantial. It's an embarrassing "problem." Awesome / useless plugin idea: an artificial time bomb that removes the tab and all traces of the website from your history after being open longer than some period of time (e.g. one week). Obviously a bookmark circumvents this dilemma, but the problem itself isn't rational to begin with.
melling 14y ago
How many people here have stuck with 3.6? It looks like it's only a few percent of FF users (<1% of all users). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox It was a really long road but with 3.6 essentially gone and silent updates, developers can worry a lot less about legacy in the Firefox world.
- freehunter 14y ago
  There are a few dozen support staff employees at my company still using Firefox 3.6, as that is all the vendor of our product supports. Luckily, they are on a local network, with no Internet access from these machines.
- Timmy_C 14y ago
  Anecdotally, I have an oddly large population of vistors to my site with Firefox 9. I don't know what changes were made to how Firefox updates around that time. But it seems like the update train has unwittingly left few users behind.
  - leif 14y ago
    As a reference, Firefox 9 is the version in the packages repo for FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE and it's probably the same for a fair number of other oses that peg versions on release.
- DEinspanjer 14y ago
  That is correct, only a few percent of active Firefox installations still run 3.6, and the majority of those are active less than once per week.
Surio 14y ago
When it comes to font rendering FF wins hands down (over Chrome). For the last couple releases Chrome's rendering of (some) fonts on screen has been atrocious, to put it mildly. Have seen a few independently filed bug reports on this issue, and getting bumped up everyday with new screenshots. Also, FF's memory handling and loading of extensions seems to be much better implemented than Chrome's. At least memory usage on my task manager seems to validate this. Chrome memory usage shoots up way up compared to FF. If Chrome can somehow come up with JIT extension loading, that would be great. ;-)
ineedtosleep 14y ago
I hope they keep plugging away at making their developer tools better. I use Firefox as my main browser, but I often have to switch to Chrome because Firebug's performance is pretty crappy even on my Ivy Bridge laptop (with 16GB of RAM).
- dangoor 14y ago
  We are indeed plugging away on the tools (and they are getting better each release :) Firebug will be getting faster as well as they are working on putting Firebug on top of the new debugging API in Firefox (which has much better performance than the old).
- uulbiy 14y ago
  My solution is to create various profiles for my different browsing needs. I have my "webdev" profile which has a lot of web development extensions including firebug, I also have my "main" profile for most browsing, the "wastetime" profile and some other profiles. While my main profile is open most of the time, I can open webdev using "firefox -profileManager -no-remote" for some javascript debugging and close it when I am done without messing with my other open profiles. If I get bored I might fire up "wastetime" to browse some websites, or the "noextensions" profile to check a website with no extensions (sometimes noscript, better privacy, adblock plus, ghostery or even pentadactyl might mess up some website that I visit). A really cool bonus is that with each profile I can save the opened tabs, so for example I have a "coursera" profile and it has all the tabs I need for the course I am taking (functional programming with scala). So, when I am studying I only need to open that profile either by itself or in addition to other profiles.
sahaskatta 14y ago
Was hoping for HDPI support, doesn't look like this update includes it.
- lillycat 14y ago
  It will likely be in Firefox 18. It is on Nightly right now.
- asadotzler 14y ago
  HiDPI is available in Aurora this week (the code that will become Firefox 18).
  - sahaskatta 14y ago
    Thanks, will checkout the Aurora build when I get a chance.
estacado 14y ago
I still use FF, but switch to Chrome for JS heavy stuff. Even amazon.com is laggy on FF. The things that's stopping me from switching to Chrome full-time is the Extensions that FF has. I can really customize things to work exactly the way I want. My biggest gripe about Chrome is that the download bar at the bottom doesn't go away when you finish a download.
johnyzee 14y ago
Tabs in separate processes is the only thing I care about when considering switching back to Firefox. As long as a single poorly coded site or plugin can freeze or kill the entire browser, I simply cannot use Firefox.

72 points by lforrest 14y ago

One of the primary reasons I switched to Chrome was due to the awesome syncing abilities with Android Chrome. Does anyone know if Firefox Mobile has matured to a point where it doesn't lag incredibly due to the huge memory footprint on Android?

gkoberger 14y ago
It has. They semi-recently switched from XUL to native Java, which has made it as fast (maybe faster?) compared to Chrome or Browser on Android. Definitely worth checking out again.
- cgranade 14y ago
  My only real complaint with Firefox Mobile is that it doesn't play that well with Intent filters like the one the YouTube app uses to catch http://*.youtube.com/* http://*.youtube.com/* requests. That said, I'm not sure how to fix that without introducing the annoying per-link popup asking me if I want to use Chrome or Firefox.

MatthewPhillips 14y ago

So it adds Webapp support, but the Firefox Marketplace is not yet open to the public, is this correct?

gkoberger 14y ago
That is correct. The Firefox parts have to land before the Marketplace can open, otherwise the Marketplace is useless.

freehunter 14y ago

I wish they'd just bump the version number to 30 then save major revision numbers for major revisions. I don't see anything in here that would warrant anything but a bump from 15 to 15.5 under the old Firefox revision standards.

Scene_Cast2 14y ago
Yep, same feeling here. There seems to be a new trend of a shifted decimal point: "beta"-ish feel until version 10, and a .1 version bump is now a new release.
deleted 14y ago
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superxor 14y ago
I think it's time to cut this 'version number' debate. Mozilla has been pretty clear about the plan to use such a system. The only problem was from enterprise users which Mozilla has addressed. The background auto-update is in the stable builds now, should be enough to keep FF updated. I am really tired of this versioning non-sense. Users complained, Mozilla addressed legitimate concerns. Now it's just a difference in perspective. Seems like the new system is actually helping Mozilla put out updates faster. Lets move on.
- freehunter 14y ago
  I know they've been very open about why they're using major revision numbers for minor features. I don't like it when Chrome does it either. I just don't like the arms race that is developing to have the higher revision number. I just get a little disappointed when I see a new major number and the changelog is minor additions and bugfixes. Just because Mozilla has their reason for making the change doesn't mean everyone has to be happy about the change. I'm not complaining about Firefox, I'm complaining about the number, and the corruption of what that number is supposed to mean.
  - Steuard 14y ago
    I don't see this as an arms race at all. (Heck, it took a major outcry just to convince Mozilla to show the version number in a place where normal users could find it.) I agree that it's a redefinition of what "version number" means: now it's essentially date based, rather than feature based (though the two are obviously correlated). But I can't see any obvious reason to read "redefinition" as "corruption". It's just different, and both Mozilla and Google had sensible reasons for making that change. In fact, their decisions may make it worth questioning those assumptions more broadly. Is there a chance that your version numbering method is causing subtle problems for your own development process?

mbchandar 14y ago

i am worried. even though it touched 16, it still sucks most of my memory and slows down the system and drains the battery immediately (1 hour of power) Firefox still needs to improve its memory usage.

abraham 14y ago
Check what extensions you are using. Firefox by itself uses much less memory and is very fast now.
mccr8 14y ago
Can you be more specific about the kinds of problems you are seeing? Can you reproduce these problems in safe mode? You should file a bug at http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ and put [MemShrink] in the whiteboard.
freehunter 14y ago
I cleaned up a lot of my extensions, and the memory usage went way down. I still get leaks where having a dozen or so tabs open will, over time, use up much of my free memory. This happens in Chrome as well, so I just keep that in mind and occasionally restart the browser.

webwanderings 14y ago

After being a FF user for so many years (since at least there was no hype behind it among average users), I caved in to Chrome finally and completely. Moved my bookmarks (lost tagging), history and sync, all to Google.

shardling 14y ago
So, that's great for you and all, but what the fuck does it have to do with the article?
- tadfisher 14y ago
  > Be civil. Don't say things you wouldn't say in a face to face conversation.
  - shardling 14y ago
    I would totally have said that face to face. :)
    - corin_ 14y ago
      I'm the same that I'd have no problem saying that sort of thing face to face, however this doesn't change the fact that what you said wasn't civil - the face to face part is an addition, not a definition of "civil".
- webwanderings 14y ago
  I know one person's opinion doesn't matter, but I owe it as my duty to tell a parting friend that I am parting ways. Given that this friend has no interest in taking people's opinions (there is no official mechanism in place to take opinions), HN is as good as any other place to make statements. Now, why the "fuck" do you care if what I write here has anything to do with the article or not? Perhaps something is lurking behind the shadow you may want to look after?
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Ensorceled 14y ago

Is 16 worth installing? Firefox used to be my favourite browser, but I stopped using it when the almost daily install and "reload or disable" addons cycle became too painful.

abraham 14y ago
That cycle should be invisible now. It updates silently in the background and should only notify you if an extension gets disabled.
- shardling 14y ago
  And unlike in previous eras of Firefox, extensions are not typically disabled by the version bump.
  - abraham 14y ago
    They should only get disabled if the use a feature that got removed.
thwest 14y ago
Yes. I switched to Chrome for a while because of performance, and for my use cases, they are back close enough to parity. I would also recommend Aurora, which gets newer features faster, but is much more stable than the nightly binaries.

Aardwolf 14y ago

Still not the feature I'd like in there: A way to open link here instead of in new tab or window

sabret00the 14y ago
Hasn't that been a feature from day one. Are you sure you haven't got the option ticked that forces links to open in external tabs/windows?
- Aardwolf 14y ago
  If I right click on a link, I see options "Open link in new tab" and "Open link in new window". What's missing there is "Open link in this tab", to circumvent these pesky websites that configure every single link to open in a new tab/window.
  - freehunter 14y ago
    Ah yes, the case where the site forces a new tab. That would be a useful option.
  - Ironlink 14y ago
    Workaround: Drag the link to the address bar.
shardling 14y ago
Sounds like a trivial extension.
- jamesbritt 14y ago
  I have a bookmarklet script that removes any "target" attributes on anchors, but it may be harder to circumvent "new window" URLs if they're initiated via scripting.

vnuk 14y ago

Why does Firefox's roadmap look like "copy everything that Chrome has"? If Firefox users needed (or wanted) marketplace for (web) apps (or any other Chrome feature) they'd already be using Chrome ...

sabret00the 14y ago
Web Apps are a very real part of the future of the web. The fact that this space exists in the first place whereby there was only desktop apps previously should be testament enough to that. I may not personally agree with Mozilla in regards to the role of web apps, but I think that we all agree, it's better to be in a position to allow users to make their own minds up rather than go off of what a few loud naysayers want.
- vnuk 14y ago
  If Wev Apps are a very real part of the future of the web why isn't there a standard for that? Or in another words, if it is the future why haven't they all sat down and agreed upon a standard?? This way we'll be begging jQuery for Web Apps or some other abstraction layer that will do all the dirty work of cross browser compatibility... I don't see a standard for Web Apps on http://www1.webplatform.org/ http://www1.webplatform.org/ anywhere ...
  - sabret00the 14y ago
    Did you take the week off? http://www1.webplatform.org/ http://www1.webplatform.org/
    - vnuk 14y ago
      All I see there is another "dry as bone" index of all web technologies, like there aren't enough of those on the Internet already ...
  - dangoor 14y ago
    Most of Web Apps are already in the standard (appcache, indexeddb, etc.) and I know there has been some communication around manifest formats (but I'm not directly involved in that). Generally speaking, though, the difference between one definition of "web app" and another is very small, in terms of what the platform has to support. I'll also note the perspective that sometimes it takes a couple of implementations before the "right" solution is known. Many evolutions of the web standards have followed varying implementations being played with in the field.

SeanDav 14y ago

Still my favourite browser by far. I usually have 3-4 windows open and up to several hundred tabs and Firefox handles this better than anything else.

darkstalker 14y ago
With the "Tree Style Tab" extension you can manage tons of tabs in a comfortable and ordered way.
- sabret00the 14y ago
  Hopefully someone will take on the enormous undertaking that will be fixing Panorama/Tab Candy to work properly. Where's Santa? That's all I want for Christmas.
Achshar 14y ago
I can't fathom a reason for "several hundred tabs" unless your job specifically requires you to open that number of tabs for some (albeit strange) reason.
- msbarnett 14y ago
  Just hazarding a guess, but I've noticed that people who have $TEXAS tabs open tend to use tabs the way I use Instapaper -- as a means of tracking interesting content they want to remember to read at some point.
- deltaqueue 14y ago
  I realize this is OT, but speaking as a tab hoarder, there's no justifiable reason for the behavior. And I'm not exaggerating when I use the term hoarder -- it's the same principle as hoarding physical goods, since the personal justification is always "they're important and I might need them someday". At any given moment I have 2 windows with about 30-40 tabs each. I even downloaded a chrome plugin called session buddy that lets me restore previous windows in the event of an accidental computer restart. The unfinished reading weighs me down every day, but I keep them open anyway. Some days I get productive and read a half dozen tabs, but never anything substantial. It's an embarrassing "problem." Awesome / useless plugin idea: an artificial time bomb that removes the tab and all traces of the website from your history after being open longer than some period of time (e.g. one week). Obviously a bookmark circumvents this dilemma, but the problem itself isn't rational to begin with.

melling 14y ago

How many people here have stuck with 3.6? It looks like it's only a few percent of FF users (<1% of all users). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox It was a really long road but with 3.6 essentially gone and silent updates, developers can worry a lot less about legacy in the Firefox world.

freehunter 14y ago
There are a few dozen support staff employees at my company still using Firefox 3.6, as that is all the vendor of our product supports. Luckily, they are on a local network, with no Internet access from these machines.
Timmy_C 14y ago
Anecdotally, I have an oddly large population of vistors to my site with Firefox 9. I don't know what changes were made to how Firefox updates around that time. But it seems like the update train has unwittingly left few users behind.
- leif 14y ago
  As a reference, Firefox 9 is the version in the packages repo for FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE and it's probably the same for a fair number of other oses that peg versions on release.
DEinspanjer 14y ago
That is correct, only a few percent of active Firefox installations still run 3.6, and the majority of those are active less than once per week.

Surio 14y ago

When it comes to font rendering FF wins hands down (over Chrome). For the last couple releases Chrome's rendering of (some) fonts on screen has been atrocious, to put it mildly. Have seen a few independently filed bug reports on this issue, and getting bumped up everyday with new screenshots. Also, FF's memory handling and loading of extensions seems to be much better implemented than Chrome's. At least memory usage on my task manager seems to validate this. Chrome memory usage shoots up way up compared to FF. If Chrome can somehow come up with JIT extension loading, that would be great. ;-)

ineedtosleep 14y ago

I hope they keep plugging away at making their developer tools better. I use Firefox as my main browser, but I often have to switch to Chrome because Firebug's performance is pretty crappy even on my Ivy Bridge laptop (with 16GB of RAM).

dangoor 14y ago
We are indeed plugging away on the tools (and they are getting better each release :) Firebug will be getting faster as well as they are working on putting Firebug on top of the new debugging API in Firefox (which has much better performance than the old).
uulbiy 14y ago
My solution is to create various profiles for my different browsing needs. I have my "webdev" profile which has a lot of web development extensions including firebug, I also have my "main" profile for most browsing, the "wastetime" profile and some other profiles. While my main profile is open most of the time, I can open webdev using "firefox -profileManager -no-remote" for some javascript debugging and close it when I am done without messing with my other open profiles. If I get bored I might fire up "wastetime" to browse some websites, or the "noextensions" profile to check a website with no extensions (sometimes noscript, better privacy, adblock plus, ghostery or even pentadactyl might mess up some website that I visit). A really cool bonus is that with each profile I can save the opened tabs, so for example I have a "coursera" profile and it has all the tabs I need for the course I am taking (functional programming with scala). So, when I am studying I only need to open that profile either by itself or in addition to other profiles.

sahaskatta 14y ago

Was hoping for HDPI support, doesn't look like this update includes it.

lillycat 14y ago
It will likely be in Firefox 18. It is on Nightly right now.
asadotzler 14y ago
HiDPI is available in Aurora this week (the code that will become Firefox 18).
- sahaskatta 14y ago
  Thanks, will checkout the Aurora build when I get a chance.

estacado 14y ago

I still use FF, but switch to Chrome for JS heavy stuff. Even amazon.com is laggy on FF. The things that's stopping me from switching to Chrome full-time is the Extensions that FF has. I can really customize things to work exactly the way I want. My biggest gripe about Chrome is that the download bar at the bottom doesn't go away when you finish a download.

johnyzee 14y ago

Tabs in separate processes is the only thing I care about when considering switching back to Firefox. As long as a single poorly coded site or plugin can freeze or kill the entire browser, I simply cannot use Firefox.