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It's faar worse. Automotive manufacturers and live IP camera feed. (See also tesla motors)

by aDyslecticCrow 10mo ago

dzhiurgis 10mo ago
Tesla is the least bad here according to Mozilla
- zie 10mo ago
  Mostly only because Tesla doesn't share this data outside of Tesla, unless they leak it to news outlets to make it look like the accident was all your fault and not Tesla's.
  - consp 10mo ago
    Isn't that the definition of slander? Which is illegal in most places.
    - zie 10mo ago
      Maybe? But good luck proving it. Tesla tends to only leak that stuff when they look bad. It's not like they are necessarily outright lying, they are just telling their version of the truth.... For the record, I'm not condoning this behaviour.
      - dzhiurgis 10mo ago
        Source? Post crash videos (IIRC published once to defend slander) extracted from black box isn’t the same as your claim.
- aDyslecticCrow 10mo ago
  I point out tesla specifically because they had headlines about sharing camera feeds as memes. The Mozilla report clearly shows tesla is not an outlier, more like "middle of the pack".
  - dzhiurgis 10mo ago
    Source for your lies?
    - DrewADesign 10mo ago
      They're probably referring to this 2023 Reuters article. https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-workers-shared-sensitive-images-recorded-by-customer-cars-2023-04-06/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-workers-shared-sens... "...pictures of dogs and funny road signs that employees made into memes by embellishing them with amusing captions or commentary, before posting them in private group chats. While some postings were only shared between two employees, others could be seen by scores of them, according to several ex-employees." Two-second Google search. It's not very charitable to accuse someone of lying without even looking. It's even mentioned in that mozilla breakdown.
      - dzhiurgis 10mo ago
        The way op worded seems they shared it publicly. You say they internally shared pics of dogs and signs..? Are you serious?
        DrewADesign 10mo ago
        > I point out tesla specifically because they had headlines about sharing camera feeds as memes. Your baseless assumptions are your own fault. I gave citations for your specific questions. There’s multiple articles about the odious things that happened that you clearly have no interest in acknowledging. I’m not your research assistant. Go read them. You’re clearly more interested in defending Tesla than understanding people’s complaints. Cope? Shill? I’ll never know, and I’ll definitely never care.
        dzhiurgis 10mo ago
        Gotcha bitch. Account created 2022. Comments heavy in em dashes. Who you botting for?
- a456463 10mo ago
  Tesla is not the least bad. Do you have that footage sitting in your car SD card or in cloud without access? Tesla is middle, if not worse
  - dzhiurgis 10mo ago
    Argue with Mozilla on this. It's their list.
DrewADesign 10mo ago
Yeah. At least you can opt out of flock. Definitely can’t opt out of ring.

It's faar worse. Automotive manufacturers and live IP camera feed. (See also tesla motors)

dzhiurgis 10mo ago

Tesla is the least bad here according to Mozilla

zie 10mo ago
Mostly only because Tesla doesn't share this data outside of Tesla, unless they leak it to news outlets to make it look like the accident was all your fault and not Tesla's.
- consp 10mo ago
  Isn't that the definition of slander? Which is illegal in most places.
  - zie 10mo ago
    Maybe? But good luck proving it. Tesla tends to only leak that stuff when they look bad. It's not like they are necessarily outright lying, they are just telling their version of the truth.... For the record, I'm not condoning this behaviour.
    - dzhiurgis 10mo ago
      Source? Post crash videos (IIRC published once to defend slander) extracted from black box isn’t the same as your claim.
aDyslecticCrow 10mo ago
I point out tesla specifically because they had headlines about sharing camera feeds as memes. The Mozilla report clearly shows tesla is not an outlier, more like "middle of the pack".
- dzhiurgis 10mo ago
  Source for your lies?
  - DrewADesign 10mo ago
    They're probably referring to this 2023 Reuters article. https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-workers-shared-sensitive-images-recorded-by-customer-cars-2023-04-06/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-workers-shared-sens... "...pictures of dogs and funny road signs that employees made into memes by embellishing them with amusing captions or commentary, before posting them in private group chats. While some postings were only shared between two employees, others could be seen by scores of them, according to several ex-employees." Two-second Google search. It's not very charitable to accuse someone of lying without even looking. It's even mentioned in that mozilla breakdown.
    - dzhiurgis 10mo ago
      The way op worded seems they shared it publicly. You say they internally shared pics of dogs and signs..? Are you serious?
      - DrewADesign 10mo ago
        > I point out tesla specifically because they had headlines about sharing camera feeds as memes. Your baseless assumptions are your own fault. I gave citations for your specific questions. There’s multiple articles about the odious things that happened that you clearly have no interest in acknowledging. I’m not your research assistant. Go read them. You’re clearly more interested in defending Tesla than understanding people’s complaints. Cope? Shill? I’ll never know, and I’ll definitely never care.
        dzhiurgis 10mo ago
        Gotcha bitch. Account created 2022. Comments heavy in em dashes. Who you botting for?
a456463 10mo ago
Tesla is not the least bad. Do you have that footage sitting in your car SD card or in cloud without access? Tesla is middle, if not worse
- dzhiurgis 10mo ago
  Argue with Mozilla on this. It's their list.

DrewADesign 10mo ago

Yeah. At least you can opt out of flock. Definitely can’t opt out of ring.