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He/She meant _searching_ for apps for a functionality in App Store is a sure way to get gobbledygooky apps. He/She probably searches them on $SEARCH_ENGINE and

He/She meant _searching_ for apps for a functionality in App Store is a sure way to get gobbledygooky apps. He/She probably searches them on $SEARCH_ENGINE and uses the AppStore just for the download.

dangus 9mo ago
Ah, so using a different advertisement platform instead of this one. Let me put this another way: if you want to manually kick off app updates, you literally have to see ads. App Store > Today tab (the default view) has ads. Then you hit your profile button to escape the ad center and there is your app update interface. This has been normalized by basically all commercial OS platforms, but imagine how insanely negatively received it would be if apt upgrade or brew upgrade displayed ads before your packages downloaded. Apple even shows ads for stuff like Apple Music/TV+/Fitness/News+ free trials in the settings pane. And people give Microsoft shit for having ads in their platform...at least they don't show you ads in Windows Update!
- littlecranky67 9mo ago
  $SEARCH_ENGINE engine is nowadays copilot or chatgpt, both ad-free if you use a simple ad-blocker.
  - AnonymousPlanet 9mo ago
    For how long? Months?
    - littlecranky67 9mo ago
      4 years, 11 months, and 3 days. Guaranteed. So not an issue right now.
  - dangus 9mo ago
    ChatGPT just announced ads, right? AI chat will be even harder to ad block than search engines. It won’t be a simple matter of blocking ad domains.
- charcircuit 9mo ago
  >but imagine how insanely negatively received it would be if apt upgrade So what already happens when you ssh into an Ubuntu server to run apt upgrade to manually update it. It turns out people don't care that much.
  - dangus 9mo ago
    I think they do care. In the gaming community, Ubuntu has gone from about 40% to 10% marketshare since 2018. https://youtu.be/Pwt216nn0zE https://youtu.be/Pwt216nn0zE Now, you might say this is because of the influence of SteamOS, but I think you’d be hard pressed to argue that Ubuntu has been getting more popular overall. Linux users have a choice while iOS and Android users essentially don’t.
    - charcircuit 9mo ago
      I am talking in relation server market share since the ad is targeted towards people running servers.
      - dangus 9mo ago
        I wouldn’t be surprised if Ubuntu server has lost marketshare to other Linux distributions, but I don’t know that I have any way to verify it.
- fmajid 9mo ago
  Web search engines' advertising can be hidden with an ad blockier. The App Store? Not so much. Its search is completely unusable anyway, even when you give it the exact app name you want. Apple's enshittification is real, and accelerating.

dangus 9mo ago

Ah, so using a different advertisement platform instead of this one. Let me put this another way: if you want to manually kick off app updates, you literally have to see ads. App Store > Today tab (the default view) has ads. Then you hit your profile button to escape the ad center and there is your app update interface. This has been normalized by basically all commercial OS platforms, but imagine how insanely negatively received it would be if apt upgrade or brew upgrade displayed ads before your packages downloaded. Apple even shows ads for stuff like Apple Music/TV+/Fitness/News+ free trials in the settings pane. And people give Microsoft shit for having ads in their platform...at least they don't show you ads in Windows Update!

littlecranky67 9mo ago
$SEARCH_ENGINE engine is nowadays copilot or chatgpt, both ad-free if you use a simple ad-blocker.
- AnonymousPlanet 9mo ago
  For how long? Months?
  - littlecranky67 9mo ago
    4 years, 11 months, and 3 days. Guaranteed. So not an issue right now.
- dangus 9mo ago
  ChatGPT just announced ads, right? AI chat will be even harder to ad block than search engines. It won’t be a simple matter of blocking ad domains.
charcircuit 9mo ago
>but imagine how insanely negatively received it would be if apt upgrade So what already happens when you ssh into an Ubuntu server to run apt upgrade to manually update it. It turns out people don't care that much.
- dangus 9mo ago
  I think they do care. In the gaming community, Ubuntu has gone from about 40% to 10% marketshare since 2018. https://youtu.be/Pwt216nn0zE https://youtu.be/Pwt216nn0zE Now, you might say this is because of the influence of SteamOS, but I think you’d be hard pressed to argue that Ubuntu has been getting more popular overall. Linux users have a choice while iOS and Android users essentially don’t.
  - charcircuit 9mo ago
    I am talking in relation server market share since the ad is targeted towards people running servers.
    - dangus 9mo ago
      I wouldn’t be surprised if Ubuntu server has lost marketshare to other Linux distributions, but I don’t know that I have any way to verify it.
fmajid 9mo ago
Web search engines' advertising can be hidden with an ad blockier. The App Store? Not so much. Its search is completely unusable anyway, even when you give it the exact app name you want. Apple's enshittification is real, and accelerating.