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This is what seemingly every app does. They add 15 different categories for notifications / emails / whatever, and then make you turn off each one individually.
by pton_xd 10mo ago
This is what seemingly every app does. They add 15 different categories for notifications / emails / whatever, and then make you turn off each one individually. Then they periodically remove / add new categories, enabled by default. Completely abusive behavior.
- bradleyankrom 10mo agoLinkedIn does the same thing re emails, notifications, etc that they send. I think I turned off notifications that connections had achieved new high scores in games they play on LinkedIn. Absurd.
- hopelite 10mo ago[flagged]
- Hoasi 10mo agoLinkedIn is one the most useless app ever. I have trashed it countless times, but I do use it now and ten to keep up with companies and respond to a few solicitations. There is almost never anything of value in my feed, between the fake jobs and the low value self-promotion AI-written posts. Who even reads this? Not even mentioning the political, and pseudo-activist posts. And this happens despite systematically marking all of these posts irrelevant or “inappropriate for LinkedIn”. This app is beyond repair. Uninstalling.
- nativeit 10mo ago“House Project Managers”
- ipython 10mo agoYep. Had that happen with the United app a few weeks ago. Unsolicited spam sent via push notification to my phone. Turns out that they added a bunch of notification settings - of course all default to on. Turned them all off except for trip updates that day. Best part is- yesterday I received yet another unsolicited spam push message. With all the settings turned off. So these companies will effective require you to use their app to use their service, then refuse to respect their own settings for privacy.
- vlachen 10mo agoI've taken to "Archiving" apps like this on my Android phone. When I need it, I can un-archive it to use it. Keeps the list of things trying to get my attention a little bit smaller.
- dmoy 10mo agoI just hellban every app from sending any notifications, except for a select few. Apps get like a one strike policy on notification spam. If they send a single notification I didn't want, I disable their ability to send notifications at all. Also all notifications/etc are silent, except for alarms, pages, phone calls, and specific named people's texts. Everything else... no. YouTube was the worst offender before for me.
- ryandrake 10mo agoThis is the way. You get one chance, app. If you send me an unwanted notification, you're done. You have to almost treat these apps as attackers.
- autoexec 10mo agoWhy even give most apps even one chance? For almost every app I have zero interest in ever getting a notification from. I see no reason to give them an opportunity to annoy me even once.
- dmoy 10mo agoHonestly because I won't remember to go into the settings page and disable it. When a notification comes in, there's a quick route to disable forever, otherwise I have to go preemptively digging
- wtallis 10mo agoI give apps a one strike policy on notification spam. If they do it at all, I'm uninstalling it until I actually need to use it next (if I can't find an alternative). And the same goes for getting in my way to beg for a review on the app store: that's a shortcut to getting a one-star rating. The main exception to this is the notification spam from Google asking me to rate call quality after every damn call. I don't have my phone rooted, so I can't turn off that category of notification.
- wmeredith 10mo agoWant to unsubscribe from this email? Ok, you can do it in one click, but we have 16 categories of emails we send you, so you'll still get the other 15! It's a dark pattern for sure.
- jrootabega 10mo agoAnd if you just add them to your spam filter, it won't even work easily, because they deliberately shift around the domains and subdomains they send from every so often.
- volkk 10mo agothis is where LLMs could actually help. create spam filters that an LLM can parse and deny if it looks close enough. but then again, hallucinations would be kind of terrible.
- autoexec 10mo agoI agree this would be a good use of an LLM (assuming that it was running locally). I wouldn't put one in charge of deleting my messages, but I could see one being used to assign a score to messages and based on that score moving them out of my inbox into various folders for review.
- jlarocco 10mo agoI'd be really interested to see a comparison between LLM spam scoring and a traditional spam scoring algorithm because an LLM is essentially a spam generator. Can that be used to make a better spam detector?
- csomar 10mo agoSame can be achieved with a catch all domain and a sub for every service you use. Cost $13/year. Extra protection: now if you lose access to your email provider, you still have access to future emails.
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- fragmede 10mo agoI especially like how they add it to the bottom of a widget with hidden scrollbars, just to make it totally missable that they added them at all!
- hansvm 10mo agoThat behavior is what finally got me off Facebook awhile back. Edit: And something similar with Windows now that I think about it; there was a privacy setting which would appear to work till you re-entered that menu. Saving the setting didn't actually persist it, and the default was not consumer-friendly.
- josephg 10mo agoWhen I get email like that, I mark it as spam. That trains the spam filters to remove their marketing email from everyone's inbox. I see it as a community service.