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Good things are good and bad things are bad. I have absolutely no problem saying that bigots who insist that no books containing LGBT characters appear in libr

Good things are good and bad things are bad. I have absolutely no problem saying that bigots who insist that no books containing LGBT characters appear in libraries are bad people while also thinking that The Turner Diaries shouldn't be in public schools.

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- LexiMax 10mo ago
  A very commonly banned book here in the United States - at least historically - is The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. There's a specific chapter that my mind has returned to, again and again, in situations where anonymous cowards issue threats from behind the veil of anonymity: https://americanliterature.com/author/mark-twain/book/the-adventures-of-huckleberry-finn/chapter-22 https://americanliterature.com/author/mark-twain/book/the-ad... The older I get, the more I think that there is wisdom in the words of Col. Sherburn on the cowardice of the average person. By the way, I wonder if HN is aware of whose alt account this is. If they are, I wonder if they would punish the original poster for issuing threats on an anonymous account. I...admit that I don't have high hopes, but I live to be surprised.
pfannkuchen 10mo ago
> who insist that no books containing LGBT characters appear in libraries Is this a common stance? I thought it was more like, no books glorifying LGBT lifestyle or teaching it as if it’s not controversial and it’s just a fact of life (as proponents sincerely believe, of course, not saying no one is thinks it is a fact of life, that’s just the part that is controversial). I understand disagreeing with that, but it isn’t the same as opponents pushing for zero gay/etc characters period, right? I haven’t been following this topic too closely though so I might be missing what people are screeching about on the right today.
- LexiMax 10mo ago
  > glorifying LGBT lifestyle What is an LGBT lifestyle? My life before and after discovering the nature of my queerness is remarkably similar, though with a fair few more relationships and a lot less anguish afterwards.
  - tavavex 10mo ago
    Weasel words like those are usually used by people to distance themselves from outright hatred of the people they dislike. "Oh, I don't hate you for being LGBT, I just hate and disagree with your lifestyle, which is something that you chose." See, totally different! The implication of "lifestyle" usually being "ability to exist in a society without any major obstacles due to being LGBT", "ability to receive true healthcare related to being LGBT", "ability to be legally recognized and accommodated as a result of it" or "ability to express your queerness in public without being seen as the villain".
    - pfannkuchen 10mo ago
      Not what I meant, thanks for the mind reading attempt though.
      - UncleMeat 10mo ago
        Maybe then you can be much more specific about "books glorifying LGBT lifestyle", because you are using the same exact words as bigots who think that two gay people in a book being happy is the same as showing children hardcore pornography.
  - pfannkuchen 10mo ago
    Can someone have a golf lifestyle? Like, they go to golf courses, they own golf clubs, they socialize with other golfers? I mean it in that sense. You seem defensive.
    - LexiMax 10mo ago

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LexiMax 10mo ago
A very commonly banned book here in the United States - at least historically - is The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. There's a specific chapter that my mind has returned to, again and again, in situations where anonymous cowards issue threats from behind the veil of anonymity: https://americanliterature.com/author/mark-twain/book/the-adventures-of-huckleberry-finn/chapter-22 https://americanliterature.com/author/mark-twain/book/the-ad... The older I get, the more I think that there is wisdom in the words of Col. Sherburn on the cowardice of the average person. By the way, I wonder if HN is aware of whose alt account this is. If they are, I wonder if they would punish the original poster for issuing threats on an anonymous account. I...admit that I don't have high hopes, but I live to be surprised.

pfannkuchen 10mo ago

> who insist that no books containing LGBT characters appear in libraries Is this a common stance? I thought it was more like, no books glorifying LGBT lifestyle or teaching it as if it’s not controversial and it’s just a fact of life (as proponents sincerely believe, of course, not saying no one is thinks it is a fact of life, that’s just the part that is controversial). I understand disagreeing with that, but it isn’t the same as opponents pushing for zero gay/etc characters period, right? I haven’t been following this topic too closely though so I might be missing what people are screeching about on the right today.

LexiMax 10mo ago
> glorifying LGBT lifestyle What is an LGBT lifestyle? My life before and after discovering the nature of my queerness is remarkably similar, though with a fair few more relationships and a lot less anguish afterwards.
- tavavex 10mo ago
  Weasel words like those are usually used by people to distance themselves from outright hatred of the people they dislike. "Oh, I don't hate you for being LGBT, I just hate and disagree with your lifestyle, which is something that you chose." See, totally different! The implication of "lifestyle" usually being "ability to exist in a society without any major obstacles due to being LGBT", "ability to receive true healthcare related to being LGBT", "ability to be legally recognized and accommodated as a result of it" or "ability to express your queerness in public without being seen as the villain".
  - pfannkuchen 10mo ago
    Not what I meant, thanks for the mind reading attempt though.
    - UncleMeat 10mo ago
      Maybe then you can be much more specific about "books glorifying LGBT lifestyle", because you are using the same exact words as bigots who think that two gay people in a book being happy is the same as showing children hardcore pornography.
- pfannkuchen 10mo ago
  Can someone have a golf lifestyle? Like, they go to golf courses, they own golf clubs, they socialize with other golfers? I mean it in that sense. You seem defensive.
  - LexiMax 10mo ago