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I find the dishonesty really off-putting. None of these books are "banned". School libraries don't stock them, they might be removed from curricula, but they ar

by Levitz 10mo ago

I find the dishonesty really off-putting. None of these books are "banned". School libraries don't stock them, they might be removed from curricula, but they are not "banned". It's just so bizarre to make an argument (A very valid one!) about freedom of information by openly lying to the public.

jfindper 10mo ago
>I find the dishonesty really off-putting. None of these books are "banned". School libraries don't stock them, they might be removed from curricula, but they are not "banned" You can look into it, if you're curious! Some of these books are indeed banned from schools (even if they want to stock it!), by state-level law no less! It's not a curation choice.
- bigstrat2003 10mo ago
  In that case it would be better to say "banned from school libraries", because they are not banned in general.
  - jfindper 10mo ago
    We're talking about an article titled "The Most Banned Books _in U.S. Schools_", I thought the "in U.S. schools" part provided the context, but I suppose not.
  - orthecreedence 10mo ago
    > banned from school libraries So, banned then?
  - IAmBroom 10mo ago
    Forget DNRTFA; you did not even read the entire seven-word title.
- threemux 10mo ago
  There's state-level law saying it's illegal to own or read some books on this list? Or just that it's illegal for school libraries to stock it and/or include it in curricula?
  - jfindper 10mo ago
    >There's state-level law saying it's illegal to own or read some books on this list? Sorry, I'll edit my comment to be more clear. It is illegal for school libraries to stock it, even if they (teachers, the district, the parents, etc.) want it to be carried. As a reminder for readers, the title of the article contains "in U.S. schools". It is probably a safe assumption to use that context for the comments in this thread.
amanaplanacanal 10mo ago
This feels like the laziest take. Librarians and teachers choose books, then some external party forces them to be removed. If you don't like the term "banned", choose a term you like better.
- ThrowawayTestr 10mo ago
  You can just buy your child these books if you really want them to read a Clockwork Orange
- m00x 10mo ago
  Would you, as a school librarian, select a book that describes how black people are lesser, and dumber than white people? Is this something you'd want kids to read?
  - worik 10mo ago
    > a book that describes how black people are lesser, and dumber than white people? Which book was that?
    - drcongo 10mo ago
      It's the one he's made up in his head to support his strawman argument that he's copying and pasting throughout this thread.
      - m00x 10mo ago
        You're saying that you don't think a single book exists that pushes white supremacy? Really?
        drcongo 10mo ago
        Nope, I'm saying they're probably not already in school libraries and therefore can't have been recently removed from school libraries thereby qualifying for this list. Can you name one that does qualify, rather than hand waving about something that's only in your imagination?
mikestew 10mo ago
"Book bans occur when those choices are overridden by school boards, administrators, teachers, or politicians, on the basis of a particular book’s content." https://pen.org/book-bans/book-bans-frequently-asked-questions/ https://pen.org/book-bans/book-bans-frequently-asked-questio...

by Levitz 10mo ago

jfindper 10mo ago

>I find the dishonesty really off-putting. None of these books are "banned". School libraries don't stock them, they might be removed from curricula, but they are not "banned" You can look into it, if you're curious! Some of these books are indeed banned from schools (even if they want to stock it!), by state-level law no less! It's not a curation choice.

bigstrat2003 10mo ago
In that case it would be better to say "banned from school libraries", because they are not banned in general.
- jfindper 10mo ago
  We're talking about an article titled "The Most Banned Books _in U.S. Schools_", I thought the "in U.S. schools" part provided the context, but I suppose not.
- orthecreedence 10mo ago
  > banned from school libraries So, banned then?
- IAmBroom 10mo ago
  Forget DNRTFA; you did not even read the entire seven-word title.
threemux 10mo ago
There's state-level law saying it's illegal to own or read some books on this list? Or just that it's illegal for school libraries to stock it and/or include it in curricula?
- jfindper 10mo ago
  >There's state-level law saying it's illegal to own or read some books on this list? Sorry, I'll edit my comment to be more clear. It is illegal for school libraries to stock it, even if they (teachers, the district, the parents, etc.) want it to be carried. As a reminder for readers, the title of the article contains "in U.S. schools". It is probably a safe assumption to use that context for the comments in this thread.

amanaplanacanal 10mo ago

This feels like the laziest take. Librarians and teachers choose books, then some external party forces them to be removed. If you don't like the term "banned", choose a term you like better.

ThrowawayTestr 10mo ago
You can just buy your child these books if you really want them to read a Clockwork Orange
m00x 10mo ago
Would you, as a school librarian, select a book that describes how black people are lesser, and dumber than white people? Is this something you'd want kids to read?
- worik 10mo ago
  > a book that describes how black people are lesser, and dumber than white people? Which book was that?
  - drcongo 10mo ago
    It's the one he's made up in his head to support his strawman argument that he's copying and pasting throughout this thread.
    - m00x 10mo ago
      You're saying that you don't think a single book exists that pushes white supremacy? Really?
      - drcongo 10mo ago
        Nope, I'm saying they're probably not already in school libraries and therefore can't have been recently removed from school libraries thereby qualifying for this list. Can you name one that does qualify, rather than hand waving about something that's only in your imagination?

mikestew 10mo ago

"Book bans occur when those choices are overridden by school boards, administrators, teachers, or politicians, on the basis of a particular book’s content." https://pen.org/book-bans/book-bans-frequently-asked-questions/ https://pen.org/book-bans/book-bans-frequently-asked-questio...