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>A ‘banned book’ is one that you are not allowed to own by the State. >Your school not stocking books you want is not a ban. It’s the prerogative of the instit

by jfindper 10mo ago

>A ‘banned book’ is one that you are not allowed to own by the State. >Your school not stocking books you want is not a ban. It’s the prerogative of the institution to choose how it shapes minds. At least some of these books are banned from schools by state-level law, not because the school district chose to not stock it.

m00x 10mo ago
Which books and which law? Aren't there other books that are banned for legitimate reasons like hate speech and racial hate that aren't included here?
- macintux 10mo ago
  Florida bill 1069 allows parents to challenge the inclusion of books in the library, but only explicitly identifies books related to sexual preferences/conduct/etc. https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2023/1069/BillText/er/PDF https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2023/1069/BillText/er/... The bill is all about pronouns, heterosexuality, abstinence, and getting books out of libraries on those grounds.
  - m00x 10mo ago
    Inclusion != ban. A ban would be you'd get in trouble for having the book in your possession, which isn't the case here.
    - macintux 10mo ago
      Parents can sue the schools for retaining books they've challenged.
    - IAmBroom 10mo ago
      Again, you are redefining the word "ban" to suit your arguments. The use of that word within the context of the article is different.
- jfindper 10mo ago
  >Which books and which law? The one I was referring to: https://www.sltrib.com/news/education/2024/08/02/utah-book-ban-list-these-titles/ https://www.sltrib.com/news/education/2024/08/02/utah-book-b... "The law, which went into effect July 1, requires that a book be removed from all public schools in the state if at least three school districts (or at least two school districts and five charter schools) determine it amounts to “objective sensitive material”" It seems like there may be more similar laws, per sibling comment. >Aren't there other books that are banned for legitimate reasons like hate speech and racial hate that aren't included here? I don't know, and I'm not sure how it is related to my comment. I did not create the list in the article and I don't maintain any other list of banned books.
  - m00x 10mo ago
    This says it's a removal from the library, not a ban. You can have it with you, but it won't be available in the school library. Would you want your kids reading Mein Kampf or The Passing of the Great Race? I wouldn't.
    - jfindper 10mo ago
      >You can have it with you, but it won't be available in the school library. No, they are "prohibited in the school setting". You cannot bring it with you.

m00x 10mo ago

Which books and which law? Aren't there other books that are banned for legitimate reasons like hate speech and racial hate that aren't included here?

macintux 10mo ago
Florida bill 1069 allows parents to challenge the inclusion of books in the library, but only explicitly identifies books related to sexual preferences/conduct/etc. https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2023/1069/BillText/er/PDF https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2023/1069/BillText/er/... The bill is all about pronouns, heterosexuality, abstinence, and getting books out of libraries on those grounds.
- m00x 10mo ago
  Inclusion != ban. A ban would be you'd get in trouble for having the book in your possession, which isn't the case here.
  - macintux 10mo ago
    Parents can sue the schools for retaining books they've challenged.
  - IAmBroom 10mo ago
    Again, you are redefining the word "ban" to suit your arguments. The use of that word within the context of the article is different.
jfindper 10mo ago
>Which books and which law? The one I was referring to: https://www.sltrib.com/news/education/2024/08/02/utah-book-ban-list-these-titles/ https://www.sltrib.com/news/education/2024/08/02/utah-book-b... "The law, which went into effect July 1, requires that a book be removed from all public schools in the state if at least three school districts (or at least two school districts and five charter schools) determine it amounts to “objective sensitive material”" It seems like there may be more similar laws, per sibling comment. >Aren't there other books that are banned for legitimate reasons like hate speech and racial hate that aren't included here? I don't know, and I'm not sure how it is related to my comment. I did not create the list in the article and I don't maintain any other list of banned books.
- m00x 10mo ago
  This says it's a removal from the library, not a ban. You can have it with you, but it won't be available in the school library. Would you want your kids reading Mein Kampf or The Passing of the Great Race? I wouldn't.
  - jfindper 10mo ago
    >You can have it with you, but it won't be available in the school library. No, they are "prohibited in the school setting". You cannot bring it with you.