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If there is such a burnout, then why doesn’t the government just stop letting so many people in? This feels more like a scapegoat situation.

tverbeure 10mo ago
“just” is doing a lot of heavy lifting here.
- givemeethekeys 10mo ago
  Tourists don’t travel illegally. What am I missing?
  - tverbeure 10mo ago
    You’re reducing a very complex problem to a meaningless slogan.
  - hackable_sand 10mo ago
    > travel illegally What does this even mean? It's not illegal to travel
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izacus 10mo ago
Whenever you use the phrase "why don't you just", you're almost certainly about to say something utterly dumb and poorly thought out. Stop and think a bit more instead.
- givemeethekeys 10mo ago
  Fine, read it without the "just" if it makes you happy.
- s1mplicissimus 10mo ago
  Would be interesting to read your opinion on what you think they missed
lm28469 10mo ago
The people profiting from the situation aren't the people dealing with the side effects, it really isn't that hard to understand... if you own a club or a building it's a gold mine. If you're just an average citizen everything is now more expensive, it's harder to find a place, you have to deal with rude people every fucking day, &c.
QGQBGdeZREunxLe 10mo ago
Since Spain is in Schengen they won't be able to easily block tourists getting visas. Plus the visa waiver programs are usually reciprocal. Best way to reduce tourism is to levy taxes on tourist activities.
- givemeethekeys 10mo ago
  That's a good point. I believe Jordan charges foreigners a much higher rate for to see tourist attractions. But, visitors don't usually stay in Jordan for more than a couple of weeks. I think if a country let's someone in only for them to find out that they're not welcome there - they're probably not going back again. It's better to know that a place is very expensive to visit up front, or - like Bhutan - there are very few tourist permits given out.
  - QGQBGdeZREunxLe 10mo ago
    Thailand too. Though you can't charge EU citizens more in Spain. It would be against EU law.

tverbeure 10mo ago

“just” is doing a lot of heavy lifting here.

givemeethekeys 10mo ago
Tourists don’t travel illegally. What am I missing?
- tverbeure 10mo ago
  You’re reducing a very complex problem to a meaningless slogan.
- hackable_sand 10mo ago
  > travel illegally What does this even mean? It's not illegal to travel
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izacus 10mo ago

Whenever you use the phrase "why don't you just", you're almost certainly about to say something utterly dumb and poorly thought out. Stop and think a bit more instead.

givemeethekeys 10mo ago
Fine, read it without the "just" if it makes you happy.
s1mplicissimus 10mo ago
Would be interesting to read your opinion on what you think they missed

lm28469 10mo ago

The people profiting from the situation aren't the people dealing with the side effects, it really isn't that hard to understand... if you own a club or a building it's a gold mine. If you're just an average citizen everything is now more expensive, it's harder to find a place, you have to deal with rude people every fucking day, &c.

QGQBGdeZREunxLe 10mo ago

Since Spain is in Schengen they won't be able to easily block tourists getting visas. Plus the visa waiver programs are usually reciprocal. Best way to reduce tourism is to levy taxes on tourist activities.

givemeethekeys 10mo ago
That's a good point. I believe Jordan charges foreigners a much higher rate for to see tourist attractions. But, visitors don't usually stay in Jordan for more than a couple of weeks. I think if a country let's someone in only for them to find out that they're not welcome there - they're probably not going back again. It's better to know that a place is very expensive to visit up front, or - like Bhutan - there are very few tourist permits given out.
- QGQBGdeZREunxLe 10mo ago
  Thailand too. Though you can't charge EU citizens more in Spain. It would be against EU law.