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So my running list of things that are obviously outdated and fruitlessly resisting their death throes now includes: - Auto dealerships - Music labels - Governm

So my running list of things that are obviously outdated and fruitlessly resisting their death throes now includes: - Auto dealerships - Music labels - Government secrecy

tomrod 14y ago
Only 3? I figured Radioshack/Bestbuy belong in this category in the long run. Would be interesting discussion on what industries denizens of HN think will fall in this manner.
- alexlarsson 14y ago
  Also: Bookstores, Record stores
- freehunter 14y ago
  Radio Shack made themselves obsolete. I don't think Best Buy is obsolete, but merely needs a restructuring. Radio Shack used to be great when you were working on a project and just needed one more part; a capacitor, a motor/servo, a PIC, etc. I don't need another phone reseller, I don't need useless RC cars, I don't need odd TV remotes. I need an electronics store that sells electronic parts. Best Buy is great for researching your purchases. I can read reviews of a laptop online, but I can't feel it, feel the build quality or the keyboard, I can't test the viewing angle. I can read reviews of TVs, but I can't see the picture quality, I can't hear the speakers. I can't ask questions and get answer immediately. Best Buy is great for this. I don't mind paying a higher price if it means I get what I need as soon as I need it. These stores should, IMO, focus on things that a customer would not trust an online purchase for, and focus on adding value to these immediate purchases. Radio Shack for parts, Best Buy for consumer purchases, each with value added by knowledgeable salesmen.
  - jmaygarden 14y ago
    The number of people that would buy a capacitor, motor/servo or PIC is not what it used to be. Electronics don't ship with schematics anymore or have nice big through-hole components that are easy for a layman to replace. I miss the old Radio Shack too, but we are in a tiny minority.
    - wiredfool 14y ago
      I actually went into RS this weekend for an electronic part, and _almost_ came away with something. They had a 5A relay, I need a 15amp part. It would have been far cheaper than the $10 shipping from newark or one of the online places. So Close, yet so far.
  - w1ntermute 14y ago
    > Best Buy is great for researching your purchases. I can read reviews of a laptop online, but I can't feel it, feel the build quality or the keyboard, I can't test the viewing angle. I can read reviews of TVs, but I can't see the picture quality, I can't hear the speakers. I can't ask questions and get answer immediately. Best Buy is great for this. Sounds like you just need an Amazon showroom. A hell of a lot cheaper to run, and a hell of a lot less annoying pimply teenage employees trying to sell you accessories and extended warranties.
    - freehunter 14y ago
      I've thought long about this issue, as I did a paper in marketing class about the threat of Amazon to brick and mortar stores. I don't think an Amazon showroom is really the best answer. Sears tried that (and still has some of these stores). Volume is very low. It works best for catalog items, and catalogs are fairly rare. The ability to touch and feel is a value-add, but just one of many. The pimply teenagers you mention are something I feel needs to change. The biggest value-add these stores can have is information and strong recommendations. Basically, if someone who knows what they are doing cannot recommend this product over that product, don't stock this product. That way when people walk into the store, the salesman can ask what they are looking for and recommend the best product they can buy for their needs. This keeps cost down and having a knowledgeable sales staff is a huge win for everyone. Right now in Best Buy, all I can really do is look at what is available and then research it online for more specs and reviews, combining the best of both worlds. This is time consuming and unproductive in the long run. Asking a sales member for advice is worthless currently. This is what needs to change for Best Buy, in my opinion. The best product for my needs, recommended by a salesman who knows what he is doing, available instantly.
  - jrockway 14y ago
    I think Radio Shack is back to that business model. I heard you can buy Arduinos there now.
  - illuminate 14y ago
    "Best Buy is great for researching your purchases." It would be, if they had enough of a selection to peruse.
nlh 14y ago
Don't forget local taxi/livery commissions...:)
bryanlarsen 14y ago
Real Estate
thematt 14y ago
+Taxi Unions/Laws

So my running list of things that are obviously outdated and fruitlessly resisting their death throes now includes: - Auto dealerships - Music labels - Government secrecy

tomrod 14y ago

Only 3? I figured Radioshack/Bestbuy belong in this category in the long run. Would be interesting discussion on what industries denizens of HN think will fall in this manner.

alexlarsson 14y ago
Also: Bookstores, Record stores
freehunter 14y ago
Radio Shack made themselves obsolete. I don't think Best Buy is obsolete, but merely needs a restructuring. Radio Shack used to be great when you were working on a project and just needed one more part; a capacitor, a motor/servo, a PIC, etc. I don't need another phone reseller, I don't need useless RC cars, I don't need odd TV remotes. I need an electronics store that sells electronic parts. Best Buy is great for researching your purchases. I can read reviews of a laptop online, but I can't feel it, feel the build quality or the keyboard, I can't test the viewing angle. I can read reviews of TVs, but I can't see the picture quality, I can't hear the speakers. I can't ask questions and get answer immediately. Best Buy is great for this. I don't mind paying a higher price if it means I get what I need as soon as I need it. These stores should, IMO, focus on things that a customer would not trust an online purchase for, and focus on adding value to these immediate purchases. Radio Shack for parts, Best Buy for consumer purchases, each with value added by knowledgeable salesmen.
- jmaygarden 14y ago
  The number of people that would buy a capacitor, motor/servo or PIC is not what it used to be. Electronics don't ship with schematics anymore or have nice big through-hole components that are easy for a layman to replace. I miss the old Radio Shack too, but we are in a tiny minority.
  - wiredfool 14y ago
    I actually went into RS this weekend for an electronic part, and _almost_ came away with something. They had a 5A relay, I need a 15amp part. It would have been far cheaper than the $10 shipping from newark or one of the online places. So Close, yet so far.
- w1ntermute 14y ago
  > Best Buy is great for researching your purchases. I can read reviews of a laptop online, but I can't feel it, feel the build quality or the keyboard, I can't test the viewing angle. I can read reviews of TVs, but I can't see the picture quality, I can't hear the speakers. I can't ask questions and get answer immediately. Best Buy is great for this. Sounds like you just need an Amazon showroom. A hell of a lot cheaper to run, and a hell of a lot less annoying pimply teenage employees trying to sell you accessories and extended warranties.
  - freehunter 14y ago
    I've thought long about this issue, as I did a paper in marketing class about the threat of Amazon to brick and mortar stores. I don't think an Amazon showroom is really the best answer. Sears tried that (and still has some of these stores). Volume is very low. It works best for catalog items, and catalogs are fairly rare. The ability to touch and feel is a value-add, but just one of many. The pimply teenagers you mention are something I feel needs to change. The biggest value-add these stores can have is information and strong recommendations. Basically, if someone who knows what they are doing cannot recommend this product over that product, don't stock this product. That way when people walk into the store, the salesman can ask what they are looking for and recommend the best product they can buy for their needs. This keeps cost down and having a knowledgeable sales staff is a huge win for everyone. Right now in Best Buy, all I can really do is look at what is available and then research it online for more specs and reviews, combining the best of both worlds. This is time consuming and unproductive in the long run. Asking a sales member for advice is worthless currently. This is what needs to change for Best Buy, in my opinion. The best product for my needs, recommended by a salesman who knows what he is doing, available instantly.
- jrockway 14y ago
  I think Radio Shack is back to that business model. I heard you can buy Arduinos there now.
- illuminate 14y ago
  "Best Buy is great for researching your purchases." It would be, if they had enough of a selection to peruse.

nlh 14y ago

Don't forget local taxi/livery commissions...:)

bryanlarsen 14y ago

Real Estate

thematt 14y ago

+Taxi Unions/Laws