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Not defending the guy, but he's possibly on the autistic spectrum, given he grinds solo on his projects for decades and stuff. He may perceive his own appetite
by d--b 10mo ago
Not defending the guy, but he's possibly on the autistic spectrum, given he grinds solo on his projects for decades and stuff.
He may perceive his own appetite for programming as being linked to some form of autism. Because, well, computers are not people, so it's nice to avoid people.
Given that there is a proven gender discrepancy in the distribution of autistic disorders, it's not completely absurd to imagine that men could biologically be more attracted to working with computers than women.
- DonHopkins 10mo agoHow does DNA know about computers?
- d--b 10mo agoComputers allow people to interact with the world while avoiding direct human interactions, which autists tend to have a hard time with. I don't know if it's true at all...
- nomel 10mo agoCould there be a difference in the social reward centers of the brain, based on gender, possibly from the biological necessities of having children? We know reward centers are not the same, between the sexes, since heterosexual attraction is the norm (and why gay conversion therapy can't work). Some brain structure and function is hard coded. Could these hormone influenced reward centers differ in social rewards, or for human interaction? Computers are not human. Maybe [1], but don't expect much research proving it one way or the other. [1] https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/01/190130175604.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/01/190130175604.h...
- thrance 10mo agoHow would that explain the very basic fact that most programmers were women in the early days of computing? It can't. The most important factors deciding which gender is most represented in programming are sociological.
- nomel 10mo agoYou need to look at the history of it all. There wasn't the freedom back then, that we have now, where women could choose their profession based on personal interest. Back then programmers were women. It wasn't considered a man's job [1]. [1] https://www.history.com/articles/coding-used-to-be-a-womans-job-so-it-was-paid-less-and-undervalued https://www.history.com/articles/coding-used-to-be-a-womans-...
- DonHopkins 10mo agoWhen you look at the history of it all, it clearly shows that men have always been misogynistic bigots oppressing and driving women out of educational opportunities and professional careers, and they still all, even more so today than ten years ago, due to the rise of GamerGate, MAGA and Project 2025.
- thrance 10mo agoWithout wanting to go too far out of my depth, I have read a few times now that a lot of the perceived growth in autism rates could be attributed to our society pushing people into adopting behaviors previously attributed to "actual" autism. Spending time on the computer as a kid (playing video games, etc.) is still mostly a boy activity, because of societal reasons, and can certainly lead to adopting these behaviors later in life in some cases (not making any value judgment here). I would be willing to bet that, had programming stayed a women-dominated position, we'd have more women than men on the spectrum today.
- luke5441 10mo agoThis is wildly extreme in the nature vs nuture debate. What is your opinion of gay conversion therapy?
- thrance 10mo agoI'm telling you: I'm out of my depth here. I don't need opinion on gay conversion therapy though, it's been shown repeatedly to be completely ineffective (and extremely cruel too). What's your point? Careful though, I'm not telling you that playing video games as a kid makes you autistic, I'm telling you that doing so can make an individual adopt behaviors previously thought to define/be exclusive to autism.
- luke5441 10mo agoWell, behaving like an autist is obviously not good. If it is by nuture then we can prevent it by e.g. prohibiting video games for kids. If it is by nature (being gay is generally accepted to be by nature) means that it cannot be changed by nuture. The trans issue is currently the hot frontier of this debate.