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One example is linked in the article where he expressed women are biologically less interested in tech.

by valiant55 10mo ago

contrarian1234 10mo ago
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- harperlee 10mo ago
  Whether one is allowed to pose some particular questions is a political topic though!
  - magicalist 10mo ago
    > Whether one is allowed to pose some particular questions is a political topic though! "This is *NOT REMOTELY* a controversial opinion except on Weird Far Left Twitter 2017" doesn't sound like a question.
  - contrarian1234 10mo ago
    curious what you mean. i dont actually take any side on the original question. i dont really know enough to have an informed opinion - and im a bit skeptical one could prove anything given the confounding variables but the idea that you cant even a-politically pose a question about biology - i dont really get the logic there. seems antiscientific
    - harperlee 10mo ago
      I was just speaking generally, I also don't have a side there. But for clarity, what I meant is that templates to the tune of "[subset of people with X characteristic] are more / less prone to [Y characteristic]" can construct blatantly false sentences, and also sentences that, irrespective of whether they are true (or that they are falsifiable at all, as you add), have a heavy political penalty. I also don't think that's bad - you can say blatantly racist things with that template, and I'm ok with those things not allowed to be said in lots of contexts.
    - thrance 10mo ago
      Issue is when MAGA people (Like Blow) say "women are biologically inclined towards X", it doesn't come from a place of geniune scientific curiosity, but rather a way to advance their misogynistic agenda. There is nothing you could ever say that would change their "opinion" on the matter. Truth is, programming was women-dominated in its inception, but was taken over by men when programming the computer became more prestigious. Whatever biological factors at play here, they're completely overridden by sociological factors.
- miltonlost 10mo ago
  Defending misogyny via biology. Nice. Who could have guessed a site composed nearly of techie guys would have problems identifying misogyny. This website is trash.
- IAmBroom 10mo ago
  I'm guessing you are a man.
  - DonHopkins 10mo ago
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- thrance 10mo ago
  The idea that there could be biological dispositions to using a computer, the least natural thing I could think off, is well and truly absurd. Anyone still "interested" in this topic is coming from a place of unsubstantiated vice signalling, and completely uninterested in hearing any actual biologist's take on the subject, in my experience. Let's not forget that the first generation of programmers was mostly women, until the job became high-status enough that men could take over. Takeaway: it's all bullshit.
  - fzeroracer 10mo ago
    It's really quite funny too, because women were a huge population of programmers and computer science graduates all the way up to the mid 1980s, when the ratios began flipping in favor of men. The biological argument would assume that either something changed biologically from 1980s onwards to make women less predisposed to be programmers, or (the more usual argument I see) 'that they were just doing the gruntwork' which usually exposes them as who they are.
    - blarg1 10mo ago
      > women were a huge population of programmers wasn't that there were a lot of women working as operators, but that job went away along with the punch cards.
  - d--b 10mo ago
    Not defending the guy, but he's possibly on the autistic spectrum, given he grinds solo on his projects for decades and stuff. He may perceive his own appetite for programming as being linked to some form of autism. Because, well, computers are not people, so it's nice to avoid people. Given that there is a proven gender discrepancy in the distribution of autistic disorders, it's not completely absurd to imagine that men could biologically be more attracted to working with computers than women.
    - DonHopkins 10mo ago
      How does DNA know about computers?
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One example is linked in the article where he expressed women are biologically less interested in tech.

contrarian1234 10mo ago

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harperlee 10mo ago
Whether one is allowed to pose some particular questions is a political topic though!
- magicalist 10mo ago
  > Whether one is allowed to pose some particular questions is a political topic though! "This is *NOT REMOTELY* a controversial opinion except on Weird Far Left Twitter 2017" doesn't sound like a question.
- contrarian1234 10mo ago
  curious what you mean. i dont actually take any side on the original question. i dont really know enough to have an informed opinion - and im a bit skeptical one could prove anything given the confounding variables but the idea that you cant even a-politically pose a question about biology - i dont really get the logic there. seems antiscientific
  - harperlee 10mo ago
    I was just speaking generally, I also don't have a side there. But for clarity, what I meant is that templates to the tune of "[subset of people with X characteristic] are more / less prone to [Y characteristic]" can construct blatantly false sentences, and also sentences that, irrespective of whether they are true (or that they are falsifiable at all, as you add), have a heavy political penalty. I also don't think that's bad - you can say blatantly racist things with that template, and I'm ok with those things not allowed to be said in lots of contexts.
  - thrance 10mo ago
    Issue is when MAGA people (Like Blow) say "women are biologically inclined towards X", it doesn't come from a place of geniune scientific curiosity, but rather a way to advance their misogynistic agenda. There is nothing you could ever say that would change their "opinion" on the matter. Truth is, programming was women-dominated in its inception, but was taken over by men when programming the computer became more prestigious. Whatever biological factors at play here, they're completely overridden by sociological factors.
miltonlost 10mo ago
Defending misogyny via biology. Nice. Who could have guessed a site composed nearly of techie guys would have problems identifying misogyny. This website is trash.
IAmBroom 10mo ago
I'm guessing you are a man.
- DonHopkins 10mo ago
  [flagged]
thrance 10mo ago
The idea that there could be biological dispositions to using a computer, the least natural thing I could think off, is well and truly absurd. Anyone still "interested" in this topic is coming from a place of unsubstantiated vice signalling, and completely uninterested in hearing any actual biologist's take on the subject, in my experience. Let's not forget that the first generation of programmers was mostly women, until the job became high-status enough that men could take over. Takeaway: it's all bullshit.
- fzeroracer 10mo ago
  It's really quite funny too, because women were a huge population of programmers and computer science graduates all the way up to the mid 1980s, when the ratios began flipping in favor of men. The biological argument would assume that either something changed biologically from 1980s onwards to make women less predisposed to be programmers, or (the more usual argument I see) 'that they were just doing the gruntwork' which usually exposes them as who they are.
  - blarg1 10mo ago
    > women were a huge population of programmers wasn't that there were a lot of women working as operators, but that job went away along with the punch cards.
- d--b 10mo ago
  Not defending the guy, but he's possibly on the autistic spectrum, given he grinds solo on his projects for decades and stuff. He may perceive his own appetite for programming as being linked to some form of autism. Because, well, computers are not people, so it's nice to avoid people. Given that there is a proven gender discrepancy in the distribution of autistic disorders, it's not completely absurd to imagine that men could biologically be more attracted to working with computers than women.
  - DonHopkins 10mo ago
    How does DNA know about computers?

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