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Aside from your conundrum I'm wondering what "ah as in yacht" could even mean; to this puzzled Brit there is no "ah" sound in "yacht". I'd spell it phonetically

by dcminter 10mo ago

Aside from your conundrum I'm wondering what "ah as in yacht" could even mean; to this puzzled Brit there is no "ah" sound in "yacht". I'd spell it phonetically "yot" - do others pronounce it "yaht" or am I completely misunderstanding?

haunter 10mo ago
I’m ESL but always pronounced it as /jɑxt/ like in dutch https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/File:Nl-jacht.ogg https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/File:Nl-jacht.ogg
- School-Cotton 10mo ago
  Native English speakers don’t do that. The “ch” only appears in spelling.
dwringer 10mo ago
"Open your mouth and say ah" "tot" "yacht" - these all have very close to the same vowel sound to me as an American, although "tot" is more of an outlier and "taught" might be closer to how I conceptualize of the sound. I'm not sure I'd ever hear the difference in practice.
- dcminter 10mo ago
  Heh, very different to me then, thanks!
School-Cotton 10mo ago
How are you pronouncing “yaht” ? I (American) would read “yaht” and “yot” exactly the same way.
- junon 10mo ago
  Assuming it's similar to "folly" vs. "foley".
  - Koshkin 10mo ago
    Not even close.
    - junon 10mo ago
      Care to expand?
      - Koshkin 10mo ago
        Sure: “yaht” and “yot” sound virtually the same (at least in American English), only maybe slightly different in the length of the vowel; “folly” and “foley”, on the other hand, sound very different from one another.
        junon 10mo ago
        Yes, that is my point. "Yot" is pronounced differently (as in "foley") outside of America in a lot of cases.
        Koshkin 10mo ago
        Except (just to be clear) no native speaker would ever pronounce 'o' in 'yot' and 'foley' the same way.
- dcminter 10mo ago
  This clarifies it I hope? It has audio & proper phonetic alphabet spelling for US vs UK. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/pronunciation/english/yacht https://dictionary.cambridge.org/pronunciation/english/yacht

haunter 10mo ago

I’m ESL but always pronounced it as /jɑxt/ like in dutch https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/File:Nl-jacht.ogg https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/File:Nl-jacht.ogg

School-Cotton 10mo ago
Native English speakers don’t do that. The “ch” only appears in spelling.

dwringer 10mo ago

"Open your mouth and say ah" "tot" "yacht" - these all have very close to the same vowel sound to me as an American, although "tot" is more of an outlier and "taught" might be closer to how I conceptualize of the sound. I'm not sure I'd ever hear the difference in practice.

dcminter 10mo ago
Heh, very different to me then, thanks!

School-Cotton 10mo ago

How are you pronouncing “yaht” ? I (American) would read “yaht” and “yot” exactly the same way.

junon 10mo ago
Assuming it's similar to "folly" vs. "foley".
- Koshkin 10mo ago
  Not even close.
  - junon 10mo ago
    Care to expand?
    - Koshkin 10mo ago
      Sure: “yaht” and “yot” sound virtually the same (at least in American English), only maybe slightly different in the length of the vowel; “folly” and “foley”, on the other hand, sound very different from one another.
      - junon 10mo ago
        Yes, that is my point. "Yot" is pronounced differently (as in "foley") outside of America in a lot of cases.
        Koshkin 10mo ago
        Except (just to be clear) no native speaker would ever pronounce 'o' in 'yot' and 'foley' the same way.
dcminter 10mo ago
This clarifies it I hope? It has audio & proper phonetic alphabet spelling for US vs UK. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/pronunciation/english/yacht https://dictionary.cambridge.org/pronunciation/english/yacht