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"ridiculous precision" being 1km resolution. Considering how one of the author's said "The U.S. taxpayers have a right to this data" I really wish they had put

by wongarsu 11mo ago

"ridiculous precision" being 1km resolution. Considering how one of the author's said "The U.S. taxpayers have a right to this data" I really wish they had put up a web viewer Here's the paper: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41597-025-06391-w https://www.nature.com/articles/s41597-025-06391-w And the data as a bunch of zipped geotiffs: https://zenodo.org/records/15446748 https://zenodo.org/records/15446748 A reasonable-ish resolution version of the headline image (total CO2 emissions 2010-2022): https://media.springernature.com/full/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1038%2Fs41597-025-06391-w/MediaObjects/41597_2025_6391_Fig1_HTML.png https://media.springernature.com/full/springer-static/image/... And my favorite: Difference in CO2 emissions between 2010 and 2022: https://media.springernature.com/full/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1038%2Fs41597-025-06391-w/MediaObjects/41597_2025_6391_Fig4_HTML.png https://media.springernature.com/full/springer-static/image/...

cheschire 11mo ago
The article claims precision to a city block or individual factory?
vegetablepotpie 11mo ago
Is that the full dataset? “The output constitutes many terabytes of data and requires a high-performance computing system to run,” co-author Pawlok Dass, a SICCS research associate, said in the release.” The largest zip file I see on the zenodo link is 404 MB in size, I’d be surprised if it unzips into anything more than a few gigabytes.
- wongarsu 11mo ago
  I'd be happy for someone to find more data. I just followed the links: the article links to the release [1] which contains the same quotes. That release links to the paper, published yesterday [2]. The paper contains a section "Data availability" which links to the dataset [3], and it also explains in detail what is inside, unambiguously referring to that dataset. The gizmodo article also directly links [2], so there isn't much room for ambiguity there. I think the clue is in the sentence "this map is actually a high-level visualization of the data Vulcan provides". The source data is terabytes of data, they boiled it down to a couple of maps with 1 square kilometer resolution. Maybe the next data releases will contain more. I don't have a clue how we go from this dataset to "down to every city block, road segment and individual factory or power plant". I guess some refineries can be measured in square kilometers, and it's a pretty good resolution for looking at highways, but other than that it seems like an exaggeration. 1: https://news.nau.edu/gurney-co2/ https://news.nau.edu/gurney-co2/ 2: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41597-025-06391-w https://www.nature.com/articles/s41597-025-06391-w 3: https://zenodo.org/records/15446748 https://zenodo.org/records/15446748

cheschire 11mo ago

The article claims precision to a city block or individual factory?

vegetablepotpie 11mo ago

Is that the full dataset? “The output constitutes many terabytes of data and requires a high-performance computing system to run,” co-author Pawlok Dass, a SICCS research associate, said in the release.” The largest zip file I see on the zenodo link is 404 MB in size, I’d be surprised if it unzips into anything more than a few gigabytes.

wongarsu 11mo ago
I'd be happy for someone to find more data. I just followed the links: the article links to the release [1] which contains the same quotes. That release links to the paper, published yesterday [2]. The paper contains a section "Data availability" which links to the dataset [3], and it also explains in detail what is inside, unambiguously referring to that dataset. The gizmodo article also directly links [2], so there isn't much room for ambiguity there. I think the clue is in the sentence "this map is actually a high-level visualization of the data Vulcan provides". The source data is terabytes of data, they boiled it down to a couple of maps with 1 square kilometer resolution. Maybe the next data releases will contain more. I don't have a clue how we go from this dataset to "down to every city block, road segment and individual factory or power plant". I guess some refineries can be measured in square kilometers, and it's a pretty good resolution for looking at highways, but other than that it seems like an exaggeration. 1: https://news.nau.edu/gurney-co2/ https://news.nau.edu/gurney-co2/ 2: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41597-025-06391-w https://www.nature.com/articles/s41597-025-06391-w 3: https://zenodo.org/records/15446748 https://zenodo.org/records/15446748