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Think of highly competitive environments where looking foolish can be weaponised against you. They definitely exist here (my experience in UK and Australia)

by rukuu001 10mo ago

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globalnode 10mo ago
some of the descriptions above of thoughtful supportive work places where people are free to explore different ideas and question assumptions sound like paradise.
- awesome_dude 10mo ago
  Or judged via rose coloured spectacles.
awesome_dude 10mo ago
My entire career - New Zealand, and Australia - asking questions is weaponised (as I stated above) Graduate, Junior, Senior, Team Lead, - my title hasn't mattered to the response
- vkou 10mo ago
  You're working in toxic workplaces. Most of them aren't like this. (I believe you when you say that most of yours are like this.)
  - kennyloginz 10mo ago
    Unionize
  - sylos 10mo ago
    I bet most workplaces are toxic in exactly this way.
shakna 10mo ago
IBM Aus discouraged it, Accenture, Concentrix, EY, CommBank, ANZ, and others all encouraged it, for myself. I wouldn't say discouraging it will be the norm across most places in Australia.
- fuzztester 10mo ago
  Somewhat, but not exactly the reverse, is Tall poppy syndrome: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tall_poppy_syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tall_poppy_syndrome I had read it about AU and JP and had read about the Jante thing, but the article says it is there in some other countries too. Probably exists everywhere in some form. I wonder if people here have experienced anything like that. My guess is yes.
  - shakna 10mo ago
    That, I have certainly seen. But that is about attacking success stories, not about attacking you for not knowing something. I know you said reverse, just spelling out they're different. Win an award? Get a callout for effort? Rest of the office will probably dunk on you. Varying in scale from a day or two of jokes to career ruining. But... Ask the meaning of an acronym in a meeting, or say you don't know how to do something, and you'll probably just be given a name to ask.
    - fuzztester 10mo ago
      >I know you said reverse, just spelling out they're different. Hey. Sup. :) I didn't say reverse. I said: >Somewhat, but not exactly the reverse, is Tall poppy syndrome. Next time, and forever after, check points better before commenting, including the point that is right above the comment that you replied to, aka mine. Pinky promise? :) Welcome to the AI (r)age, where people comment without thinking or reading. Oops, mea culpa. Entschulding! It was happening much before that, and not only on HN. In fact, it has been happening forever, and anyone who doesn't know it is a rotten egg. <Jumps into the pool ahead of others. (last one in, etc.)>
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Think of highly competitive environments where looking foolish can be weaponised against you. They definitely exist here (my experience in UK and Australia)

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globalnode 10mo ago

some of the descriptions above of thoughtful supportive work places where people are free to explore different ideas and question assumptions sound like paradise.

awesome_dude 10mo ago
Or judged via rose coloured spectacles.

awesome_dude 10mo ago

My entire career - New Zealand, and Australia - asking questions is weaponised (as I stated above) Graduate, Junior, Senior, Team Lead, - my title hasn't mattered to the response

vkou 10mo ago
You're working in toxic workplaces. Most of them aren't like this. (I believe you when you say that most of yours are like this.)
- kennyloginz 10mo ago
  Unionize
- sylos 10mo ago
  I bet most workplaces are toxic in exactly this way.

shakna 10mo ago

IBM Aus discouraged it, Accenture, Concentrix, EY, CommBank, ANZ, and others all encouraged it, for myself. I wouldn't say discouraging it will be the norm across most places in Australia.

fuzztester 10mo ago
Somewhat, but not exactly the reverse, is Tall poppy syndrome: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tall_poppy_syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tall_poppy_syndrome I had read it about AU and JP and had read about the Jante thing, but the article says it is there in some other countries too. Probably exists everywhere in some form. I wonder if people here have experienced anything like that. My guess is yes.
- shakna 10mo ago
  That, I have certainly seen. But that is about attacking success stories, not about attacking you for not knowing something. I know you said reverse, just spelling out they're different. Win an award? Get a callout for effort? Rest of the office will probably dunk on you. Varying in scale from a day or two of jokes to career ruining. But... Ask the meaning of an acronym in a meeting, or say you don't know how to do something, and you'll probably just be given a name to ask.
  - fuzztester 10mo ago
    >I know you said reverse, just spelling out they're different. Hey. Sup. :) I didn't say reverse. I said: >Somewhat, but not exactly the reverse, is Tall poppy syndrome. Next time, and forever after, check points better before commenting, including the point that is right above the comment that you replied to, aka mine. Pinky promise? :) Welcome to the AI (r)age, where people comment without thinking or reading. Oops, mea culpa. Entschulding! It was happening much before that, and not only on HN. In fact, it has been happening forever, and anyone who doesn't know it is a rotten egg. <Jumps into the pool ahead of others. (last one in, etc.)>
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