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> From what I remember, it's not addon-users, as most users never have used even just a single addon. If most users who install Firefox do so for superior adbl

by chmod775 10mo ago

> From what I remember, it's not addon-users, as most users never have used even just a single addon. If most users who install Firefox do so for superior adblocking and those same users are also very likely to turn off telemetry (which I think some privacy/adblock extensions probably do by default?), then at Mozilla's end one might get the impression that "most users don't use extensions" - even though the vast majority of users do. So to answer the questions of: > Who is Mozilla's core audience? It's probably the kind of user that has telemetry off. You don't know much if anything about them.

PurpleRamen 10mo ago
Update-checks are not included in telemetry. And I would think most people using addons still do update their addons from time to time, or even have the auto-check active. There is also the download-stats from their server-side, so I would think they do have a good enough picture of their numbers. Might be they could be 10% off, but surely are there not tens or even hundreds of millions of stealth-users around. > It's probably the kind of user that has telemetry off. You don't know much if anything about them. Don't think so, most people don't give a f** about this. Tech-people on that level are even in the industry a minority. And on the other side, those stealth-users are worthless for Mozilla, because they can't make money from google with them. So for a project needing to make money with usersnumbers, everyone who is out of this, isn't core audience anyway.
- chmod775 10mo ago
  > Don't think so, most people don't give a f* about this. Most people are not Firefox users.
Foriney 10mo ago
> It's probably the kind of user that has telemetry off. If less than 4% of users use uBO, which the kind of users you're referencing claim is the primary reason they use Firefox, I doubt many users disable telemetry either.
- nerdponx 10mo ago
  I believe some Linux distributions patch Firefox to change default settings including disabling telemetry. Probably not a big factor, but still something to think about.

PurpleRamen 10mo ago

Update-checks are not included in telemetry. And I would think most people using addons still do update their addons from time to time, or even have the auto-check active. There is also the download-stats from their server-side, so I would think they do have a good enough picture of their numbers. Might be they could be 10% off, but surely are there not tens or even hundreds of millions of stealth-users around. > It's probably the kind of user that has telemetry off. You don't know much if anything about them. Don't think so, most people don't give a f** about this. Tech-people on that level are even in the industry a minority. And on the other side, those stealth-users are worthless for Mozilla, because they can't make money from google with them. So for a project needing to make money with usersnumbers, everyone who is out of this, isn't core audience anyway.

chmod775 10mo ago
> Don't think so, most people don't give a f* about this. Most people are not Firefox users.

Foriney 10mo ago

> It's probably the kind of user that has telemetry off. If less than 4% of users use uBO, which the kind of users you're referencing claim is the primary reason they use Firefox, I doubt many users disable telemetry either.

nerdponx 10mo ago
I believe some Linux distributions patch Firefox to change default settings including disabling telemetry. Probably not a big factor, but still something to think about.