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> Many banks and government websites don’t even support it anymore and loudly tell people to use Chrome instead, especially in developing countries. I cannot r

by graemep 11mo ago

> Many banks and government websites don’t even support it anymore and loudly tell people to use Chrome instead, especially in developing countries. I cannot remember the last time I came across one myself.

p-e-w 11mo ago
It very strongly depends on which country you live in.
- darkwater 11mo ago
  In which country are you seeing that? For me the biggest offender are usually Google products and sometimes the lazy-coded website written by incompetents and whose audience is the tech illiterate (i.e. some websites involving schools/teaching) that just tell you "use latest Chrome just to be sure, download here" to, well, just be sure. Notable mentions for government websites that are like 10 years in the past and that are still on the "Supports Firefox" side because, well, they are just always late to everything.
  - rbits 11mo ago
    I live in Australia and I can't log into government services using my myGov account on Firefox. Works fine on Chromium.
    - someNameIG 11mo ago
      Just to test I just logged into myGov then through Firefox and it worked fine.
    - b112 11mo ago
      Wow. Force-Supporting the same company they're battling daily, on multiple issues.
      - graemep 11mo ago
        Lack of joined up thinking. While governments battle big tech on some issues, they are very much on the same side on others. They both want more tracking for example - the governments want to regulate it, and there is a battle for control of the data, but both want the data to be collected by someone.
    - iamtedd 11mo ago
      I have no issues with mygov in firefox (on linux of all platforms). I don't even whitelist ublock origin on that domain. Check your other extensions.
    - 4nonverbal-alit 11mo ago
      Usually that's because of third party cookies the government websites love to use for authentication. FF and Safari by default blocks them but both can be disabled temporarily to use those websites. Chrome is more lax on them since ad networks love cross origin cookies as well.
    - yen223 11mo ago
      I live in Australia and have been using Firefox for all my myGov needs without even thinking about it Which service do you have issues with?
    - aryonoco 11mo ago
      MyGov works fine on Firefox but I do use incognito window with no extensions for them. I’d say it’s probably one of your extensions.
- kgwxd 11mo ago
  Seems really dumb to let a crappy bank site dictate what browser you use for everything else.
bcraven 11mo ago
User-Agent Switcher usually sorts them out
Yizahi 11mo ago
That happens quite often these days. Last week I was filling in a govt form (EU country), submit button didn't work in FF, so I had to resort to using Microsoft Chrome. On my company's training platform videos aren't rendered in FF. Another shitty corporate portal which shows my salary and holidays doesn't work in FF at all, completely. What else... A few smaller payment providers weren't working in FF over past two years. Ghost of the Skype before being finally killed only worked in Chrome clones. Stadia only worked in Chrome (yes, I used it and it was fine). Also many sites show significant degradation in FF lately. Youtube works like shit in FF, once every 10 page opens it just gets stuck half way with part of the background loaded, like black with black empty frames on top. Or just empty page. No, it never finishes loading from that state, and neither it can reload on F5. But opening a new tab works fine and YT loads normally. And to finish off this rant, FF has now started corrupting my open tabs after opening FF with saved session. This never happened since this feature was implemented and in 2025 has happened 3 times already. And in mozilla bugtracker all tickets about this are ignored for years now. Meanwhile they are developing some crappy bells and whistles, instead of fixing fundamental bugs. If not for Chrome monopoly, I would consider switching browsers. Ladybird can't come soon enough. Mozilla has lost touch with reality.
derbOac 11mo ago
Reading comments here about problems using Firefox is odd to me as I never run into them. I feel like people are taking about totally different browsers. I don't remember the last time I had page rendering issues or was asked to use a different browser.
- ffuxlpff 11mo ago
  Never had this problem - so far - on Linux. Maybe it has something to do with using a sucker operating systems.
- bityard 11mo ago
  It's not page rendering issues, usually, since Firefox and Chrome pretty much support all the same things. What you run into the most is the website saying, hey, it looks like you are not using a browser we have tested against, so we are not going to let you log in. Please come back when you have Chrome, edge, or Safari.
- tokai 11mo ago
  Its the same kind of people that claim Linux is too unstable for them, and when you ask when they tried it they say 15 years ago.
  - glenstein 11mo ago
    My favorite anecdote on this front: someone posted a comment on Lemmy, a fediverse alternative to Reddit, claiming Arch was "broken" and Linux users were delusional for thinking it was functional for the average person. And when people ask them what they meant, they revealed that they used some package from the arch user repository that apparently required manual compiling for every update. And instead of thinking that this wasn't the unusual behavior of a particular package, they insisted that this was the normal Linux packaging experience, which was why Linux as a whole was a terrible operating system. A bunch of commenters chimed in emphasizing that the whole package distribution system in Linux is designed to among other things, handle dependencies and avoid manual compiling (though it's available as an option), and they were all dismissed as just being fanboy apologists.
nickjj 11mo ago
Having switched to Firefox about 10 months ago, one thing I notice is every site I visit works but a lot of sites load way slower than Chrome. YouTube is a big one. How much of that is Firefox rendering being worse vs artificial slowdowns by Google owned sites kind of doesn't matter in the end. Objectively it's a slower browsing experience but I solely use it for uBlock Origin.
- neodymiumphish 11mo ago
  I've been using Orion browser (WebKit-based with support for Chrome and Firefox extensions) for quite some time and haven't had this issue with YouTube, but I've definitely experienced the same with Firefox. If it's an issue of artificial slowdowns, you'd think they'd apply it to anything not running on Chrome's engine, which makes me think it's specifically Firefox's rendering causing this issue.

by graemep 11mo ago

p-e-w 11mo ago

It very strongly depends on which country you live in.

darkwater 11mo ago
In which country are you seeing that? For me the biggest offender are usually Google products and sometimes the lazy-coded website written by incompetents and whose audience is the tech illiterate (i.e. some websites involving schools/teaching) that just tell you "use latest Chrome just to be sure, download here" to, well, just be sure. Notable mentions for government websites that are like 10 years in the past and that are still on the "Supports Firefox" side because, well, they are just always late to everything.
- rbits 11mo ago
  I live in Australia and I can't log into government services using my myGov account on Firefox. Works fine on Chromium.
  - someNameIG 11mo ago
    Just to test I just logged into myGov then through Firefox and it worked fine.
  - b112 11mo ago
    Wow. Force-Supporting the same company they're battling daily, on multiple issues.
    - graemep 11mo ago
      Lack of joined up thinking. While governments battle big tech on some issues, they are very much on the same side on others. They both want more tracking for example - the governments want to regulate it, and there is a battle for control of the data, but both want the data to be collected by someone.
  - iamtedd 11mo ago
    I have no issues with mygov in firefox (on linux of all platforms). I don't even whitelist ublock origin on that domain. Check your other extensions.
  - 4nonverbal-alit 11mo ago
    Usually that's because of third party cookies the government websites love to use for authentication. FF and Safari by default blocks them but both can be disabled temporarily to use those websites. Chrome is more lax on them since ad networks love cross origin cookies as well.
  - yen223 11mo ago
    I live in Australia and have been using Firefox for all my myGov needs without even thinking about it Which service do you have issues with?
  - aryonoco 11mo ago
    MyGov works fine on Firefox but I do use incognito window with no extensions for them. I’d say it’s probably one of your extensions.
kgwxd 11mo ago
Seems really dumb to let a crappy bank site dictate what browser you use for everything else.

bcraven 11mo ago

User-Agent Switcher usually sorts them out

Yizahi 11mo ago

That happens quite often these days. Last week I was filling in a govt form (EU country), submit button didn't work in FF, so I had to resort to using Microsoft Chrome. On my company's training platform videos aren't rendered in FF. Another shitty corporate portal which shows my salary and holidays doesn't work in FF at all, completely. What else... A few smaller payment providers weren't working in FF over past two years. Ghost of the Skype before being finally killed only worked in Chrome clones. Stadia only worked in Chrome (yes, I used it and it was fine). Also many sites show significant degradation in FF lately. Youtube works like shit in FF, once every 10 page opens it just gets stuck half way with part of the background loaded, like black with black empty frames on top. Or just empty page. No, it never finishes loading from that state, and neither it can reload on F5. But opening a new tab works fine and YT loads normally. And to finish off this rant, FF has now started corrupting my open tabs after opening FF with saved session. This never happened since this feature was implemented and in 2025 has happened 3 times already. And in mozilla bugtracker all tickets about this are ignored for years now. Meanwhile they are developing some crappy bells and whistles, instead of fixing fundamental bugs. If not for Chrome monopoly, I would consider switching browsers. Ladybird can't come soon enough. Mozilla has lost touch with reality.

derbOac 11mo ago

Reading comments here about problems using Firefox is odd to me as I never run into them. I feel like people are taking about totally different browsers. I don't remember the last time I had page rendering issues or was asked to use a different browser.

ffuxlpff 11mo ago
Never had this problem - so far - on Linux. Maybe it has something to do with using a sucker operating systems.
bityard 11mo ago
It's not page rendering issues, usually, since Firefox and Chrome pretty much support all the same things. What you run into the most is the website saying, hey, it looks like you are not using a browser we have tested against, so we are not going to let you log in. Please come back when you have Chrome, edge, or Safari.
tokai 11mo ago
Its the same kind of people that claim Linux is too unstable for them, and when you ask when they tried it they say 15 years ago.
- glenstein 11mo ago
  My favorite anecdote on this front: someone posted a comment on Lemmy, a fediverse alternative to Reddit, claiming Arch was "broken" and Linux users were delusional for thinking it was functional for the average person. And when people ask them what they meant, they revealed that they used some package from the arch user repository that apparently required manual compiling for every update. And instead of thinking that this wasn't the unusual behavior of a particular package, they insisted that this was the normal Linux packaging experience, which was why Linux as a whole was a terrible operating system. A bunch of commenters chimed in emphasizing that the whole package distribution system in Linux is designed to among other things, handle dependencies and avoid manual compiling (though it's available as an option), and they were all dismissed as just being fanboy apologists.

nickjj 11mo ago

Having switched to Firefox about 10 months ago, one thing I notice is every site I visit works but a lot of sites load way slower than Chrome. YouTube is a big one. How much of that is Firefox rendering being worse vs artificial slowdowns by Google owned sites kind of doesn't matter in the end. Objectively it's a slower browsing experience but I solely use it for uBlock Origin.

neodymiumphish 11mo ago
I've been using Orion browser (WebKit-based with support for Chrome and Firefox extensions) for quite some time and haven't had this issue with YouTube, but I've definitely experienced the same with Firefox. If it's an issue of artificial slowdowns, you'd think they'd apply it to anything not running on Chrome's engine, which makes me think it's specifically Firefox's rendering causing this issue.